The other thread is a dumpster fire. I'm sure this will become one as well, but might as well start with a clean slate. I'll at least try to keep the OP updated with any notable news. Feel free to PM me if I miss anything good.
Arrest warrant and potential charges:
Spoiler!
BREAKING: An arrest warrant has been issued for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in connection to his involvement in a multi-vehicle crash on U.S. 75 in Dallas in late March, sources tell WFAA. https://t.co/XL3F7oCuW1
Originally Posted by :
Rice, 23, now faces eight charges in the case -- six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and one count of aggravated assault, according to the arrest warrant. All of the charges are felonies.
Collision involving injury carries a penalty of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for not more than five years or confinement in the county jail for not more than one year, a fine fine not to exceed $5,000 or both. Collision involving serious bodily injury -- a third-degree felony -- carries a punishment of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years. Aggravated assault -- a second-degree felony -- is punishable by two to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.
TL;DR, his concern was at a 2, and now it's a 4 (out of 10). Still probably not a huge deal, but there are some concerning possibilities. Overall, though, he thinks it all gets pled down to misdemeanors, he misses a couple of games, and he writes some massive checks to those he injured.
#Chiefs WR Rashee Rice and former SMU CB Theodore Knox are being sued for $1 million by two victims of the March 30 crash in Dallas, Texas, for severe injuries, including 'trauma to the brain, lacerations to the face requiring stitches, multiple contusions about the body,… pic.twitter.com/RlDvilVLi6
#Chiefs Patrick Mahomes said he's worked with Rashee Rice throughout the offseason and will continue to do so while the legal process plays out for Rice..
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
1. Team owner gets caught on video banging a hooker who is likely also a sex trafficking victim.
2. WR causes traffic accident with minor injuries and foolishly leaves the scene before going to the police and turning himself in.
Any logical, sane person knows which one of these crimes is the more egregious and also which one is the bigger black eye on the face of the league (hint for the mentally-challenged - it's the one in bold print).
Hopefully Rice is "punished" just as harshly as Mr. Sex-Trafficking-Hooker-****er - i.e., given nothing more than a slap on the wrist, if that.
Well a team owner banging a hooker doesn't endanger my life the way somebody weaving through traffic at 100+ mph does.
I guess it would depend on whether the owner had some reason to know the hooker was a sex trafficking victim? [Reply]
Although I'm still irritated that a coach alleged that the owner offered to pay him to intentionally lose games in order to get a better draft spot and the league apparently swept that under the rug without investigating. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
Well a team owner banging a hooker doesn't endanger my life the way somebody weaving through traffic at 100+ mph does.
I guess it would depend on whether the owner had some reason to know the hooker was a sex trafficking victim?
Let's be real, the NFL doesn't care about victims. All the league cares about is its image, which is why domestic violence is punished relatively harshly...even if the only actual victim of violence is a small household appliance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by philfree:
So no real news on this situation? Rice is working out with Mahomes but his future is in doubt. I view what he did as more than a dumb kid speeding and losing control and causing a wreck but I've never suggested what his punishment should or will be though I have said if he never plays another down for the Chiefs I won't care. I've also said that if he does I hope he plays well.
Now what I'm wondering is when is Roger going to put him on the commissioners list? I can see him waiting till week one to do it because Chiefs. Also can't his lawyer speed up the legal process by making the deals with the prosecutor in advance? And to go along with that he needs to agree to pay the people who are suing him the money they're asking for. If he is indeed going to be a Chiefs he needs to get this stuff worked out ASAP.
No, his future is not in doubt. He'll be suspended for a few games. [Reply]
The car that made these two, equal-length tire marks had positraction. You can't make those marks without positraction, which was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark!
It's a limited slip differential which distributes power equally to both the right and left tires. The '64 Skylark had a regular differential, which, anyone who's been stuck in the mud in Alabama knows, you step on the gas, one tire spins, the other tire does nothing.
And, there's more! You see? When the left tire mark goes up on the curb and the right tire mark stays flat and even? Well, the '64 Skylark had a solid rear axle, so when the left tire would go up on the curb, the right tire would tilt out and ride along its edge. But that didn't happen here. The tire mark stayed flat and even. This car had an independent rear suspension. Now, in the '60s, there were only two other cars made in America that had positraction, and independent rear suspension, and enough power to make these marks. One was the Corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, width, weight, wheel base, and wheel track as the '64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest.
And because both cars were made by GM, both cars were available in metallic mint green paint! [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThrobProng:
Let's be real, the NFL doesn't care about victims. All the league cares about is its image, which is why domestic violence is punished relatively harshly...even if the only actual victim of violence is a small household appliance.
No argument from me on that one. And I'm not really that big on suspensions for off the field non football related stuff anyway.
Performance enhancing drugs, yes suspend.
Otherwise, for things that are misdemeanors or less, I would generally just leave it up to the legal system to dish out punishment. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I can prove Rashee is innocent.
The car that made these two, equal-length tire marks had positraction. You can't make those marks without positraction, which was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark!
It's a limited slip differential which distributes power equally to both the right and left tires. The '64 Skylark had a regular differential, which, anyone who's been stuck in the mud in Alabama knows, you step on the gas, one tire spins, the other tire does nothing.
And, there's more! You see? When the left tire mark goes up on the curb and the right tire mark stays flat and even? Well, the '64 Skylark had a solid rear axle, so when the left tire would go up on the curb, the right tire would tilt out and ride along its edge. But that didn't happen here. The tire mark stayed flat and even. This car had an independent rear suspension. Now, in the '60s, there were only two other cars made in America that had positraction, and independent rear suspension, and enough power to make these marks. One was the Corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, width, weight, wheel base, and wheel track as the '64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest.
And because both cars were made by GM, both cars were available in metallic mint green paint!
IMHO You need to be an expert witness and present your informed and very knowledgeable findings at the trial. You’ve waited at Best Buy for days in a row for the good of this team. This will be a cake walk for you. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MVChiefFan:
IMHO You need to be an expert witness and present your informed and very knowledgeable findings at the trial. You’ve waited at Best Buy for days in a row for the good of this team. This will be a cake walk for you.
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
Assuming the victims have not suffered major lifelong injuries, Rice deserves around 1.5 to 2 years of actual time served in a low security jail where nonviolent criminals go and another 1-2 years of probation where he has to visit schools and warn kids about the dangers of acting like an idiot behind the wheel.
I don't think the NFL should punish Rice especially if the state of Texas puts him in jail for an adequate amount of time. He isn't OJ Simpson or Aaron Hernandez but what he did could easily get 4-5 people killed and/or disabled for life.
Two things about this case are really egregious. High speed racing against another car on public roads and leaving the scene of an accident. If you let someone get away with those two things without some noteworthy jail time, you may as well not have traffic laws at all.
Donte Stallworth literally killed someone whle most likely drunk, served 24 days in jail, and then you motherfuckers signed him 3 years later. Get the fuck outta here bitch. [Reply]
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
I don't think the NFL should punish Rice especially if the state of Texas puts him in jail for an adequate amount of time. He isn't OJ Simpson or Aaron Hernandez but what he did could easily get 4-5 people killed and/or disabled for life.
The law doesn't punish based on what could have happened. [Reply]
Originally Posted by philfree:
So no real news on this situation? Rice is working out with Mahomes but his future is in doubt. I view what he did as more than a dumb kid speeding and losing control and causing a wreck but I've never suggested what his punishment should or will be though I have said if he never plays another down for the Chiefs I won't care. I've also said that if he does I hope he plays well.
Now what I'm wondering is when is Roger going to put him on the commissioners list? I can see him waiting till week one to do it because Chiefs. Also can't his lawyer speed up the legal process by making the deals with the prosecutor in advance? And to go along with that he needs to agree to pay the people who are suing him the money they're asking for. If he is indeed going to be a Chiefs he needs to get this stuff worked out ASAP.
His future is not in any doubt and I'd say there is basically no chance he goes on the commissioners list. [Reply]
