Yes 16 14.16%

No 16 14.16%

I don't live in Jackson County, but would vote Yes 59 52.21%

I don't live in Jackson County, but would vote No 22 19.47%

Because, dude, nobody voted to 'lose the Royals '. We just voted to not give them a limitless credit card to do whatever the fuck they want wherever the fuck they want to do it. That's it. It was a shitty plan with so many questions -none of which they'd answer.

They're not going anywhere. They'll come back with a better plan and we'll take a look.

It's that simple. All of the rest of this is tantrum throwing and hyperbole.
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I don't live in KC but Clinton (1 hr south) and the TSC is the perfect location IMHO. Relatively easy to get in and out and centrally located.

I admit I haven't been to a Nascar race or SKC in a while but the last time I did for SKC I had to park in the grass somewhere or the Legends\Nebraska Furniture parking lot. Not atmosphere outside the stadium that I could remember.

But it is soccer :-)
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Austin is about 2 hours away from Houston and 3 hours away from Dallas.

A team in Austin would be awfully parasitic from an overall league health perspective. They're not likely adding new fans - they're just shuffling them around a bit (if at all - Dallas fans in Austin aren't going to become Austin fans over any sort of reasonable timeline).

Moreover, I have some family down there and Austin's really busting at the seems a bit. Their growth will almost have to plateau shortly or they're going to implode from a pure livability standpoint.

I don't think Austin's as obvious a candidate as you would think.
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Austin is outpacing its infrastructure
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:-)... politicians and the free loaders will vote for something else less valuable than the Chiefs to eat up that new available sales tax vacancy...
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I think that gets passed, yes. Fairly easily, in fact.

In Wyandotte County.

And I think that's probably the end game here. It's what Clark actually wants. And long-term, it'll be better for Chiefs fans (though I would hate it coming from the East side of the city; would make my drive in/out from Columbia quite a bit shittier every weekend).
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It's 3 miles closer to the Legends than Arrowhead though.
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I was listening to 610 a little bit ago and they were playing some Fescue clips and he said the KS gov has told people they are ready to offer over a billion dollars to both teams with no public vote required.
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Biggly.

It's not something that can't be fixed by the influx of tax dollars over a long enough period of time. But it's gonna be a 5-10 year process with some fairly nasty growing pains along the way.
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Lets remember...it's Bob Fescoe.
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True but I don't have any doubt they have the bag to make that happen at least for the Chiefs.
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You guys are losing your minds for no reason.

Nobody is going anywhere.

Both teams will come back with probably separate proposals - and they should, and they should be separated. If it's not going to be one complex anymore, why should The Chiefs be tied to the boat anchor Royals?

The Chiefs renovation will almost surely pass. Nobody cares about a less than half a cent tax.

The Royals sunk this vote by being very, very stupid. Get a better plan that doesn't suck shit and it'll probably pass, too. East Village site probably would have passed easily. It was monumentally stupid to assume that The Chiefs would provide enough cover for them to do this.
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You're assuming the Chiefs are willing to come back to the table with Jackson County.
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As I think about it, San Antonio might actually be a nice fit. Or something where they try to do a bit of both (SA and Austin).

Could you plop a stadium in New Braunfels and have enough space to make it work out there while siphoning traffic from both Austin and San Antonio without blasting their respective infrastructures? And by adding another hour or so in distance away from Houston/Dallas while pushing into south texas where they're kinda different creatures (definitely not as likely to be Dallas fans) might you be able to sate Jerrah a little more?

I'd see a team in/near San Antonio being a bit more likely than Austin. You'll still get the benefit of the population growth in Austin but you'll do it in a way that's less intrusive and maybe more likely to actually help the league grow rather than just shuffle some deck chairs. Austin's growth just isn't organic at all. That's all transplants who probably already have teams (or don't care about football; they ain't from Texas afterall - it presumably wasn't a religion where they came from). San Antonio's growth has been more natural and when you get down to south Texas you're in real live native Texan territory.
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Bob Fescoe is a fucking idiot
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