Originally Posted by dlphg9:
There is one thing im really sick of and I think it's coming from a place of ignorance, so I think we can get it stopped.
I'm talking about the Wanya Morris slander.
Am I saying he's been the best tackle in the league? No, I'm not, but he is getting ran through the wringer and is getting about 95% of the blame for the pressure Mahomes is seeing and is getting a ton of blame for the offensive problems.
I'm saying that a ton more of that blame needs to be placed in the IOL. The guys that are getting there shit shoved in, so that there is never a pocket for Mahomes which forces him to have to bail the pocket. That makes it damn near impossible for Morris and Taylor to do their jobs.
Interior pressure has always been the one thing that can derail a Patrick Mahomes led offense. We've spent way too much money on the IOL for them to let so much pressure get through.
Enough with the Morris slander!
It's not slander when it's true. He's bad at times. Like, REALLY bad. Bad enough that even when he plays well Mahomes still doesn't trust him and bails on clean pockets. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I mean if you wanna have a nice circle jerk instead of any type of football conversation there are plenty of places out there for that.
You're a loser who thrives on negativity and you rarely have anything good to say about the best team in the league. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
You're a loser who thrives on negativity and you rarely have anything good to say about the best team in the league.
Originally Posted by Wallcrawler:
It's not that you lose, it's how.
We handed the game to the Bills as much as they happily took it.
Ignoring a Kareem Hunt that repeatedly gashed the defense in favor of calling passes they struggled to block up killed several possessions.
Steve Spagnuolo appeared to be the only person on the planet completely unaware that Josh Allen wasn't putting the ball in anyone else's hands on 4th n 2.
As frustrating as that game was to watch, it played out just like several wins. Need points? Boom. Got em.
Down 2 and defense gets the stop we drive for game winning field goal and the band plays on.
Defense hit a speed bump and surrendered 7 when they absolutely couldn't do that, and it sealed the game.
We're going to murder Carolina and Vegas, and no better time for back to back get right games.
The L forces cleanup. It shows you can't just sleepwalking to wins, and you need to pull your head out of your ass if you want to win against a top contending football team.
The LT situation is a problem. Wanya os a guard at best, swing tackle in a pinch.
I'd prefer Thuney start playing snaps at LT and move Wanya inside. If Mahomes is protected and moreover TRUSTS that he's protected, he's unstoppable.
Happy feet and rushed throws, free shots on him, they're all having a profound effect on his statlines this year.
Thuney while better, has not been playing to his normal standard. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Wall Crawler has been very optimistic this year, actually. I can't remember seeing him say anything bad.
he’s become far less curmudgeonly (as one would hope after 3 SBs) but back in the day he would write some epic soliloquies detailing how Andy Reid would never win a SB [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoover:
I had on my chiefs quarter zip yesterday at the PT office. The receptionist asked how I was doing. I said great. Then pointed to my shirt, and said something like tough loss. She then told me she was a bills fan. I laughed, said have fun watching my team play in the Super Bowl.
This team is going to get better as the play offs approach. In all honesty the Chiefs approach the regular season like it’s preseason. They work on things try to get guys involved etc. I get it, it would be fun stomping on the gas like the Lions and boat racing your opponents every week, but this franchise is focused on winning championships. Like actual championships not fantasy leagues etc.
I believe when it matters Worthy will be a star.
I believe when it matters Kelce will wreck opposing defenses.
I believe when it matters Patrick will be more aggressive. (Seriously there were times in the game where Hunt was wide open as a dump off right out of the gate and would have easily got the first down).
AFC playoff are going to be a blast watching the Steelers, Bills, Ravens, Texans, Chargers, and Broncos beat the everyone g shit out of one another on wild card weekend.
One of my coworkers is a Bills fan and she was at the game. She was admittedly delighted with the outcome of the game. All I said was "yeah, we know how this goes. See you in the playoffs". Her demeanor immediately changed and she said "yeah, I know". 🤣 [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
There is one thing im really sick of and I think it's coming from a place of ignorance, so I think we can get it stopped.
I'm talking about the Wanya Morris slander.
Am I saying he's been the best tackle in the league? No, I'm not, but he is getting ran through the wringer and is getting about 95% of the blame for the pressure Mahomes is seeing and is getting a ton of blame for the offensive problems.
I'm saying that a ton more of that blame needs to be placed in the IOL. The guys that are getting there shit shoved in, so that there is never a pocket for Mahomes which forces him to have to bail the pocket. That makes it damn near impossible for Morris and Taylor to do their jobs.
Interior pressure has always been the one thing that can derail a Patrick Mahomes led offense. We've spent way too much money on the IOL for them to let so much pressure get through.
I mean, my God. Look at how quickly he gets beaten here. If Gray didn't immediately find an open spot on the goal line that's a sack.
Yeah he gets beat, but there was a pocket he could have stepped into. The IOL did good there, it's not usually like that, do any speed rusher is going to make the tackles look bad. It's also one play. I can find that happen to every single offensive lineman at least a few times a season. [Reply]
For the people saying Mahomes has been off all year...
Was he really that off while KC still had Rice?
I mean things weren't perfect because Travis was invisible early. But Rice was a machine before he went down. Hollywood would obviously have helped also. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Counterpoint: what loss have we sustained over the last six+ seasons that you have been OK with?
There’s always something in a loss that leaves a sour taste in your mouth.
Well no shit, Sherlock. Losing sucks
However, there are differences in the WAY the game is lost.
Players play. It's a fact. So if the players are just getting beaten, missing tackles, dropping oasses, blowing coverages, shanking kicks and punts, then you suck it up and just accept the team has to get better.
Perfect example, Superbowl 55. Pat made the throws under impossible conditions. Guys just dropped them, or worse, weren't even aware of them. We were beaten due to brickhanded brainless receivers, and a horrific lack of pass protection. The plays Andy called were there. He's not blameless, the timeout that led to a 21-6 halftime deficit instead of a 14-6 halftime deficit looms large in that game, but there was a Stark lack of ability on that field.
Now, there's the other side of the coin. When you have elements of your game that are working that you just don't use, you continue doing what has flatly failed repeatedly all game, you punt to save 15 yards of field position, you call Barnum and Bailey circus dumbshit plays that stall your possessions, those are things that happen because the man on the sideline isn't quite right that day.
Did Andy call plays relevant to what was happening in the Bills game? No.
Kareem was having success. 5 yards on first down is a massive asset. Romo alluded to it early. The guy that can turn around and hand the ball off for 5 yards on first down is likely going to win this game. Somehow, he didn't want to use it. Pass pass pass punt. 12th carry for Hunt didn't come until the 4th quarter.
Just terrible by Andy there. Instead, we're immediately behind the sticks with an o line that seems to have forgotten how to play football the past couple weeks.
So yeah, if Andy contributes to a loss, he will be criticized. I know he's kinda off limits for a lot of you. But if you think that was a good job calling offense in Buffalo, you might be on the spectrum. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wallcrawler:
Well no shit, Sherlock. Losing sucks
However, there are differences in the WAY the game is lost.
Players play. It's a fact. So if the players are just getting beaten, missing tackles, dropping oasses, blowing coverages, shanking kicks and punts, then you suck it up and just accept the team has to get better.
Perfect example, Superbowl 55. Pat made the throws under impossible conditions. Guys just dropped them, or worse, weren't even aware of them. We were beaten due to brickhanded brainless receivers, and a horrific lack of pass protection. The plays Andy called were there. He's not blameless, the timeout that led to a 21-6 halftime deficit instead of a 14-6 halftime deficit looms large in that game, but there was a Stark lack of ability on that field.
Now, there's the other side of the coin. When you have elements of your game that are working that you just don't use, you continue doing what has flatly failed repeatedly all game, you punt to save 15 yards of field position, you call Barnum and Bailey circus dumbshit plays that stall your possessions, those are things that happen because the man on the sideline isn't quite right that day.
Did Andy call plays relevant to what was happening in the Bills game? No.
Kareem was having success. 5 yards on first down is a massive asset. Romo alluded to it early. The guy that can turn around and hand the ball off for 5 yards on first down is likely going to win this game. Somehow, he didn't want to use it. Pass pass pass punt. 12th carry for Hunt didn't come until the 4th quarter.
Just terrible by Andy there. Instead, we're immediately behind the sticks with an o line that seems to have forgotten how to play football the past couple weeks.
So yeah, if Andy contributes to a loss, he will be criticized. I know he's kinda off limits for a lot of you. But if you think that was a good job calling offense in Buffalo, you might be on the spectrum.