Originally Posted by gordonelloyd:
Glad to see support for going for a 2TE approach. Gives us a good receiver, and an eventual replacement for Kelce. Depending on who’s available maybe use our number 1 pick on a TE , UNLESS FRANKLIN IS AVAILABLE, and 2 on a WR. I agree it would probably be better value to trade up in round 2 that in round 1.
I don’t understand why there’s a feeling Laporta would not have worked out for KC. He wouldn’t have done as well as he did in Detroit in all likelihood, but would have been a much better receiver option than what we had beyond Rice and Kelce.
LaPorta woulda been great in KC but Rice was a better fit for what we needed, and thank god we went that way or the cupboard woulda been completely empty at WR this season. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
LaPorta woulda been great in KC but Rice was a better fit for what we needed, and thank god we went that way or the cupboard woulda been completely empty at WR this season.
I think Kincaid was the best fit, with the retrospect of the first season in the books. Granted, we would have had to make a move, but he looks like the next Kelce to me. [Reply]
I don’t necessarily hate the idea of TE in the 1st, although I think it might be a year too early but who knows. My concern would be if this is another FAU situation where aside from injury that player isn’t get much time in year 1? I’m not sure we would run 3 TE sets THAT often and I question if a rookie would pass Gray on the depth chart anytime soon. But if it’s BPA then so be it, we need weapons on offense however we can get them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
I think Kincaid was the best fit, with the retrospect of the first season in the books. Granted, we would have had to make a move, but he looks like the next Kelce to me.
Now say we woulda taken La Porta, or to your comment Kincaid, in the 1st and still taken Rice in the 2nd... That woulda been pretty spectacular! [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
I don’t necessarily hate the idea of TE in the 1st, although I think it might be a year too early but who knows. My concern would be if this is another FAU situation where aside from injury that player isn’t get much time in year 1? I’m not sure we would run 3 TE sets THAT often and I question if a rookie would pass Gray on the depth chart anytime soon. But if it’s BPA then so be it, we need weapons on offense however we can get them.
'24 is the last year of Gray's deal so I'm not sure I'd personally care if a rookie passed him up on the depth chart. May the best man win. [Reply]
Couple interesting PFF stats I noticed at first glance...
Thomas Jr at #4
Troy Franklin at #5 with 10% drops
McConkey next at #6
Coleman #7
Mitchell #8
Dez Walker #9
Jermaine Burton at #10 with 0% drops
Legette at #11 [Reply]
2.7% drop rate (2 drops to 71 catches)
3.15 yards per route run (Have only noticed Harrison Jr and Nabers at 3+)
85.5% vs man coverage
86.9% receiving grade
82.5% overall grade (Very few WRs with 80%+ grades this season, Thomas Jr was 74%) [Reply]
#1 in missed tackles forced
#1 yards from slot
#2 rec from slot
64.7% contested catch rate
2.6% drop rate with 3 total
3.15 yards per route run
92.4% receiving grade (Harrison Jr 89.6% and Nabers 93.1%)
Look a lot bigger than he's listed out there, plays tough, is known for making clutch plays.
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I think we're sleeping on Malik Washington a bit.
#1 in missed tackles forced
#1 yards from slot
#2 rec from slot
64.7% contested catch rate
2.6% drop rate with 3 total
3.15 yards per route run
92.4% receiving grade (Harrison Jr 89.6% and Nabers 93.1%)
Look a lot bigger than he's listed out there, plays tough, is known for making clutch plays.
-Catching ability, he has absolute sure hands and his technique is great
-Toughness, although he's 5'8 he's built real solid and seems to deliver the blow when carrying the ball
-Good understanding vs zone, finds the soft spot and sits well
-Doesn't seem to shy from traffic
What I dislike:
-5'8, not a ton of receivers who excel at that size
-The versatility in the NFL is gonna be slim, he's solely gonna operate from the slot
-Doesn't appear to be a super dynamic athlete
There's some Amon St-Brown in his game- that's the type of receiver he'll have to be in the NFL if he succeeds since I don't think he's going to stretch the defense. I'll be interested to see how his testing goes but the odds are stacked against him being a very short receiver. In regards to the Chiefs, they would have to double dip at the WR position in the draft I think to have a shot at him. Washington will be a 4th/5th round guy in my opinion. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shoes:
What I like about Washington:
-Catching ability, he has absolute sure hands and his technique is great
-Toughness, although he's 5'8 he's built real solid and seems to deliver the blow when carrying the ball
-Good understanding vs zone, finds the soft spot and sits well
-Doesn't seem to shy from traffic
What I dislike:
-5'8, not a ton of receivers who excel at that size
-The versatility in the NFL is gonna be slim, he's solely gonna operate from the slot
-Doesn't appear to be a super dynamic athlete
There's some Amon St-Brown in his game- that's the type of receiver he'll have to be in the NFL if he succeeds since I don't think he's going to stretch the defense. I'll be interested to see how his testing goes but the odds are stacked against him being a very short receiver. In regards to the Chiefs, they would have to double dip at the WR position in the draft I think to have a shot at him. Washington will be a 4th/5th round guy in my opinion.
We only have 1 legit WR so its not like we don't need a quality slot option. [Reply]