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Nzoner's Game Room>Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect
RunKC 08:08 PM 02-09-2025
I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Mecca 11:25 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by O.city:
The QB playing the way he does makes the OL look alot worse, but we can't talk about that.
An example they used was Houston, look at the splits they use to try to protect their OT's, that they have them get wider to create a larger pocket to give the QB even extra tenths of a second, you don't see the Chiefs do this at all, their pocket is narrow and condensed.
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Sassy Squatch 11:26 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by O.city:
Like kicking your LG to LT, plugging in a journey man LG and making it to the SB?

Or their 5th round pick RG about to become one of the highest paid OL in history?
Come the fuck on. Trey Smith was a day two prospect that fell due to medicals and has regressed year to year.
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OKchiefs 11:27 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by Mecca:
An example they used was Houston, look at the splits they use to try to protect their OT's, that they have them get wider to create a larger pocket to give the QB even extra tenths of a second, you don't see the Chiefs do this at all, their pocket is narrow and condensed.
So who is that on then, which Andy?
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Sassy Squatch 11:29 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by O.city:
The QB playing the way he does makes the OL look alot worse, but we can't talk about that.
You can. Just don't be blatantly disingenuous about it and put all the onus on him.
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Mecca 11:30 AM 02-13-2025
Trey Smith wasn't a "Find" most people knew who he was medicals made him fall, the Chiefs took a chance and it worked, that isn't taking some raw fuck and molding him.
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O.city 11:33 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Come the **** on. Trey Smith was a day two prospect that fell due to medicals and has regressed year to year.
But we don't know that they haven't drafted or developed any of the guys like Allegretti or whoever because they've had the guys they've had.

No need to play anyone.
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O.city 11:34 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
You can. Just don't be blatantly disingenuous about it and put all the onus on him.
Well, it's not all his fault. But if we are gonna have the GOAT convo and he's gonna make the cash he does, we can't win without him playing at an elite level.
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Sassy Squatch 11:36 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by O.city:
That asset needs to have guys he can "trust" or whatever that means.
Like, what in the fuck is this bullshit? You're a dentist, right? You can't seriously be stupid enough to not understand that a QBs job is directly affected by the quality of his weapons and protection.

The axe to grind some seem to have towards Mahomes is getting pretty fucking old. Just because Brady has a small pocket of success where he made chicken salad out of chicken shit doesn't mean it's the standard we should expect Mahomes to operate in in perpetuity.
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RunKC 11:37 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by O.city:
If he needs 5 good/great OL to not freak out in the pocket, we need to have some discussions.
No QB is winning a SB being pressured 45+%. In SB history Eli Manning is the only QB who has ever won being pressured that much and it was because the Giants also put that much pressure on Tom that game and there had to be a winner.

This was a problem all season long. You don’t need all-pro’s but goddamn dude you can’t have no running game and a history bad OL in the SB.

No QB is winning in that scenario
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Mecca 11:39 AM 02-13-2025
So either the Chiefs are gonna expect Mahomes to make turds shine because of money reasons or they are gonna have to play the void year game. which is it?
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O.city 11:43 AM 02-13-2025
I'm good with loading up the offense.

But we'll smack the ping pong back and forth and in a year or two it'll be "the defense just can't get stops"
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Sassy Squatch 11:45 AM 02-13-2025
Suamataia
Morris
Suamataia
Morris
Thuney
Humphries
Thuney

There's 17 games in a fucking season and he had a 4 man rotation playing musical chairs all year. Just saying he needed to suck it up is a bit lame IMO.
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dannybcaitlyn 11:48 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Tim Grunhard was on Petro’s show calling for Andy Heck to be fired.
Hell yeah! Hope it happens!
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RunKC 11:52 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'm good with loading up the offense.

But we'll smack the ping pong back and forth and in a year or two it'll be "the defense just can't get stops"
They still have Chris Jones for a couple more years, Trent, Karlaftis and will likely keep Bolton.

Nobody is saying not to put resources into the defense. They need use this draft for the offense like what the used the 2022 draft for the defense
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MahomesMagic 11:55 AM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'm good with loading up the offense.

But we'll smack the ping pong back and forth and in a year or two it'll be "the defense just can't get stops"
Baltimore, Buffalo. Philadelphia all paying their QB big money but none are asking their QB to run for their life.
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