To be fair, Carr had nearly no one to throw to last season. And still put up career numbers in both completion percentage and total yards (70.34/4054 yards). It's a little crazy when you think about it. Pedigree-wise, the best player he threw to last season was Zav Jones, drafted in the 2nd rd. 2017. But Waller? Drafted in the 6th in 2015. Tyrell Williams undrafted. Hunter Renfrow 5th round.
This season Carr won't have that excuse. He'll have the weapons, albeit young inexperienced ones. And the defense has to be much improved, because at the end of the day Carr is a game manager-type QB. he is only going to be as good as his weapons (and his defense), and his ceiling is Alex Smith 2017. Good enough to play and have some success, but not able to put a team on his back and carry them deep into the playoffs or a SB.
That makes this year the year that makes or breaks Derek Carr. He either takes his team to the playoffs and makes some noise in 2020, or he probably gets replaced in 2021. [Reply]
He's such a pussy. I'd be embarrassed to call him my QB. I'd gladly take one legged Alex back before I'd ever want that whiny bitch leading my team. And crying on the field. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
To be fair, Carr had nearly no one to throw to last season. And still put up career numbers in both completion percentage and total yards (70.34/4054 yards). It's a little crazy when you think about it. Pedigree-wise, the best player he threw to last season was Zav Jones, drafted in the 2nd rd. 2017. But Waller? Drafted in the 6th in 2015. Tyrell Williams undrafted. Hunter Renfrow 5th round.
This season Carr won't have that excuse. He'll have the weapons, albeit young inexperienced ones. And the defense has to be much improved, because at the end of the day Carr is a game manager-type QB. he is only going to be as good as his weapons (and his defense), and his ceiling is Alex Smith 2017. Good enough to play and have some success, but not able to put a team on his back and carry them deep into the playoffs or a SB.
That makes this year the year that makes or breaks Derek Carr. He either takes his team to the playoffs and makes some noise in 2020, or he probably gets replaced in 2021.
Spoken like the local Carrdashians or Carrsaders I listen to around here. Having great WRs almost irrelevant when the QB gets rid of the ball immediately after the snap. He is too scared to let plays develop...honey badger said it right after one of the games. Put all of Carrs stats up that you want but the one that counts (39-55) is pure crap. Carr doesnt worry any DC`s in the league one bit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jdubya:
Spoken like the local Carrdashians or Carrsaders I listen to around here. Having great WRs almost irrelevant when the QB gets rid of the ball immediately after the snap. He is too scared to let plays develop...honey badger said it right after one of the games. Put all of Carrs stats up that you want but the one that counts (39-55) is pure crap. Carr doesnt worry any DC`s in the league one bit.
Points:
I never said Carr was going to have great WRs this season. I said he'd have more weapons to throw to than last season. young and inexperienced, but more, faster weapons.
Carr didn't always get rid of the ball early. Though that's the offensive philosophy that Gruden has installed for the most part; 'run often, and when throwing get the ball out quickly to the playmakers.' Very standard WCO. But he played behind the biggest OL in the league, so he held the ball and tried to find open receivers quite often. The problem with Carr is that when he feels/sees pressure, he tends to throw balls up for grabs. or decide too late to try and run for it. Sounds vaguely familiar . . .
I never said anything about Carr being scary to DCs. In fact, I said quite the opposite:
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because at the end of the day Carr is a game manager-type QB. he is only going to be as good as his weapons (and his defense), and his ceiling is Alex Smith 2017
I never said Carr was going to have great WRs this season. I said he'd have more weapons to throw to than last season. young and inexperienced, but more, faster weapons.
Carr didn't always get rid of the ball early. Though that's the offensive philosophy that Gruden has installed for the most part; 'run often, and when throwing get the ball out quickly to the playmakers.' Very standard WCO. But he played behind the biggest OL in the league, so he held the ball and tried to find open receivers quite often. The problem with Carr is that when he feels/sees pressure, he tends to shit his pants and curl up into a ball of piss.
I never said anything about Carr being scary to DCs. In fact, I said quite the opposite:
How fantastic is that? On 3rd downs, as the distance to gain goes up, Carr's depth of target...doesn't. 3rd and 5, 3rd and 12 - makes no difference, he's throwing underneath.
Dude's just a consummate dink and dunk artist. He's Alex !@#$ing Smith without the mobility, regardless of what the Raiders honks will desperately try to convince you of. [Reply]
Carr is the ultimate team player. He is exactly the personality you want on your football team. Just give him actual weapons and take care of that offensive line, and watch out.
I hope he shows the Raiders enough this year to convince Gruden to make him the Raiders long term QB. He is exactly the kind of rival the Chiefs would love to have. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bewbies:
Carr is the worst QB in the AFCW.
And that’s without knowing what Lock (who sucks) and whoever The Chargers trot out there will ever be.
Is he the absolute worst? Wouldn't go that far.
Is he easily the least likely to lead his team to a championship? Yup - if you presume Herbert to be the eventual starter in SD.
Lock has major bust potential, as does Herbert. But both of those guys also have tools and the requisite aggression to be championship caliber passers if they develop nicely.
Carr, OTOH, is what he is. He's mediocrity personified. He's a game-managing relic w/ marginal mobility in a league that has badly passed that kind of quarterback by.
Carr will never win a championship. Herbert and Lock probably won't - but might.
If I were drafting QBs out of the AFCW - I'd take Mahomes, Lock, Herbert and Carr in that order. The 2 in the middle represent possibility while Carr represents mere purgatory. [Reply]
“I would say to him if he was here in my face and he said that, I would tell him right now, ‘If you’re tired of being disrespected, play better.’ It’s that simple.”
(And that sound you hear in the distance is Derek Carr blocking Lincoln Kennedy on Twitter.) [Reply]
Play better? The raiders have no defense and had zero weapons lol which of the weapons from last year would you want on the chiefs? Jacobs and Waller that’s it. You don’t win in the nfl with subpar talent [Reply]
