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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Bowser 09:30 PM 07-22-2021
Even if the Big XII goes up in a mushroom cloud tomorrow, tourneys will still be played at Sprint Center. P&L is too good of a venue for some conference not to take advantage of.


edit - T-Mobile Center. Way to fuck it up, Sprint.
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Mizzou_8541 09:39 PM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I recall circa 2011 some Mizzouchebags wondering if leaving would jeopardize the tourney.

They actually thought they mattered.
That’s doesn’t even make any sense. Do better. You reek of desperation.
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tk13 09:40 PM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Even if the Big XII goes up in a mushroom cloud tomorrow, tourneys will still be played at Sprint Center. P&L is too good of a venue for some conference not to take advantage of.


edit - T-Mobile Center. Way to **** it up, Sprint.
I think it'd be possible but I'd be surprised if the Big Ten put it in the regular rotation. Even some of the western schools like Indiana, Purdue and Wisconsin are probably about 500 miles away, and the eastern half of the league is forever and a day away.
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ChiefsCountry 09:47 PM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Even if the Big XII goes up in a mushroom cloud tomorrow, tourneys will still be played at Sprint Center. P&L is too good of a venue for some conference not to take advantage of.


edit - T-Mobile Center. Way to **** it up, Sprint.
MVC would have jumped at it back when Creighton and Wichita State were in the league. League has shifted east since they left.
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Titty Meat 09:48 PM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I’d prefer to stay in as small a conf as possible so our hoops slate isn’t eaten up by a bunch of P5 also rans. If OU-Tex leave Id like to keep the remaining old rivalries and free up the 4 hoops games (going from 18 now in conf to 14) for big name matchups nationwide.


I don’t care about any of the other AthDept sports.
You sound scared of competition
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ChiefsCountry 09:48 PM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by tk13:
I think it'd be possible but I'd be surprised if the Big Ten put it in the regular rotation. Even some of the western schools like Indiana, Purdue and Wisconsin are probably about 500 miles away, and the eastern half of the league is forever and a day away.
Big Ten did hold its conference tournament in New York and Washington DC.
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tk13 09:55 PM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Big Ten did hold its conference tournament in New York and Washington DC.
Yeah and a lot of people hated it. And that was solely to get exposure in NY and DC. Kansas City isn't nearly that kind of market.

I mean I wouldn't be surprised at all if KC got a Big Ten tourney at all because KC is fantastic at hosting those kinds of events. But there's no way they pull out of the Chicago and Indy rotation, it'd just be a once every few years thing. And if Ohio State and Michigan weren't into it, maybe less.
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Titty Meat 10:05 PM 07-22-2021
Weeks Ranked in Top 10 Since 2010
Texas A&M 47
TCU 47
Baylor 40
Michigan St 40
Boise St 32
Oklahoma St 32
Washington 31
South Carolina 22
Nebraska 19
Arkansas 16
Texas 14
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Sassy Squatch 09:42 AM 07-23-2021

OPINION: this is the best case scenario for Kansas.

Texas and OU are gone. Sticking around in the B12 remnants is not in the best interest of KU.

— Mike Vernon (@M_Vernon) July 23, 2021

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Rams Fan 09:49 AM 07-23-2021
I do not want Texas in the SEC at all, though they wouldn’t be able to get away with acting as the alpha in the SEC given the presence of Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Florida, etc.

Indifferent on Oklahoma.

I don’t see this being good for the SEC other than more $ and more mouths to feed.
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Prison Bitch 09:52 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
I do not want Texas in the SEC at all, though they wouldn’t be able to get away with acting as the alpha in the SEC given the presence of Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Florida, etc.

Indifferent on Oklahoma.

I don’t see this being good for the SEC other than more $ and more mouths to feed.

It’s all anyone ever cared about. And it’s only worse post-COVID
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kcclone 09:53 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
I do not want Texas in the SEC at all, though they wouldn’t be able to get away with acting as the alpha in the SEC given the presence of Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Florida, etc.

Indifferent on Oklahoma.

I don’t see this being good for the SEC other than more $ and more mouths to feed.
I can see the SEC raiding the top teams from the ACC/B1G/P12 and setting up their own super league eventually.

NCAA is toast with NIL. The SEC can become an semi-pro league now with a huge built in fan base.

The SEC has the most athletes and money/TV sets. Why share the wealth with schools and sports they don't give a crap about?
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Rams Fan 09:55 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
It’s all anyone ever cared about. And it’s only worse post-COVID
Which is unfortunate because that’s how you end up with situations like Rutgers to the Big 10 and the mess known as the American Conference.

College sports would be better off if Texas and it’s little siblings were back in their own league.

Originally Posted by kcclone:
I can see the SEC raiding the top teams from the ACC/B1G/P12 and setting up their own super league eventually.

NCAA is toast with NIL. The SEC can become an semi-pro league now with a huge built in fan base.

The SEC has the most athletes and money/TV sets. Why share the wealth with schools and sports they don't give a crap about?
P12 maybe, but not ACC. I think B10, SEC, and ACC are the most stable conferences. ACC in general also has much higher academic standards than the SEC-moreso than majority of B10.
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Pablo 09:55 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
That would make for a very competitive basketball schedule. We’d get smashed in football but that’s gonna happen no matter what.
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Titty Meat 10:05 AM 07-23-2021
They gone.

https://twitter.com/247Sports/status...%3Ft%3D3033426
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