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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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sedated 03:09 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Dante84:
Well, that would put SEC at 16.

Big 10 has 14 - Iowa State & Notre Dame make sense from a football perspective
Wouldn't Iowa try their hardest to keep Iowa State out?
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RustShack 03:14 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by sedated:
Wouldn't Iowa try their hardest to keep Iowa State out?
Shit at this point with all of the racism coming to light in the Iowa program, and Iowa State just being the better football team in the state currently they might be willing to just switch them out.
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Sassy Squatch 03:14 PM 07-21-2021
Oklahoma fans seem to think this is a kick in the nuts to FOX to get what they want.
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ChiefBlueCFC 03:19 PM 07-21-2021
kindly fuck off
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Bearcat 03:22 PM 07-21-2021
Now that we know how this works, I guess Kansas' next move is to join the ACC and ride the coattails of conference pride in basketball instead of, you know, caring nearly so much about being good.

:-)
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Spott 07-21-2021, 03:25 PM
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Pablo 03:37 PM 07-21-2021
I once created a very important art piece on the place of Mizzou athletics in the SEC:

Image: Not Safe for Work

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RustShack 03:58 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Spott:
Maybe time for Missouri and Nebraska to get the band back together and go back to the Big 12.
Hell aTm and Arkansas might be willing as well if Texas is going there.
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Hoover 04:12 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by RustShack:
Shit at this point with all of the racism coming to light in the Iowa program, and Iowa State just being the better football team in the state currently they might be willing to just switch them out.
LOL

And Iowa State, who will finish 9-3 or 8-4, will suck again the second Matt Campbell leaves.
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Boiled Chicken 04:13 PM 07-21-2021
Interesting that UT effectively killed the Big 12 over their insistence on the Longhorn network and now courting a conference that shares revenues via its network.
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KChiefs1 04:24 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
Let's fire it up again!


Isn’t the SEC elite enough.
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RustShack 04:52 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Hoover:
LOL

And Iowa State, who will finish 9-3 or 8-4, will suck again the second Matt Campbell leaves.
Who turned town 68 million from the lions and has already turned down Tennessee two separate occasions among several other offers. I’m not worried about him leaving anytime soon. He’s turned down several pay raises electing to pay his staff more instead, and doesn’t even have an agent. He’s not in it for the money. He’s in it to do something.
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Mecca 05:07 PM 07-21-2021
If those schools leave, the Big 12 is a dead stick.
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sedated 05:14 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by RustShack:
Who turned town 68 million from the lions and has already turned down Tennessee two separate occasions among several other offers. I’m not worried about him leaving anytime soon. He’s turned down several pay raises electing to pay his staff more instead, and doesn’t even have an agent. He’s not in it for the money. He’s in it to do something.
I admire your confidence, but betting this post doesn't age well in a year or 2
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Pitt Gorilla 06:00 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Why do the high profile Big XII schools just not care for the Big XII?
It's a really weak conference. That's it.
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WhawhaWhat 06:35 PM 07-21-2021

I'm told Texas A&M and Missouri would be a hard no. Only 2 more needed to block an invitation to Texas, OU.

— Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) July 21, 2021

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