- Ranked 2nd among charted prospects in success rate vs. man (75%) and press coverage (75.7%) - Led all prospects in success rate vs. zone coverage (88.1%) - He can play inside and outsidehttps://t.co/HbifB61JlJpic.twitter.com/HYsV8rlAzF
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
So is JuJu really stinking it up that bad already?
Or you guys just going for a contrarian take?
What makes Hardman and Moore that more enticing than JuJu? Hardman has yet to ever show much and Moore is from a small program trying not just to get up to speed on NFL defenses' but get up to speed on Andy's offense.
That's a steep curve to accomplish in just his rookie season.
JuJu has had success when he was healthy and he had a QB that wasn't a corpse.
I honestly really hope Juju kills it, it would be amazing. Here though are my list of reasons, both valid and also pretty invalid of why I'm not hyping him up more:
-First, invalid reason: He's under contract for one year. Even if he blows up he's either going to be really expensive or leave. Or, I mean, both. So there's a side of me that wants others to succeed instead. Thankfully what I want has nothing to do with how it plays out.
-Second Juju really succeeded when he, against the odds, maxed out his opportunities. He did this playing second fiddle to Antonio Brown largely out of the slot. Brown left, then Juju not only regressed to the mean when it came to opportunities he also was not nearly as effective playing the X against the best corners. I was more excited about Juju before Tyreek left.
-Third I feel like he's just an extra guy in our offense. We have better route runners, faster guys, bigger guys, guys that catch better. Maybe he can be a Sammy Watkins but I just don't see Juju being that #1 WR for any team ever.
I could be very very wrong but not hearing anything out of camp so far kind of just confirmed my bias. But then again maybe he's a gamer and he'll show up in games. Maybe Mahomes' arm will make him come alive. We'll see. [Reply]
Originally Posted by crispystl:
I think he will too. He was really coming on strong at the end of the season, and now he’ll get a bunch of Hill’s gadget touches too.
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He came on strong with the way the staff finally just decided they were going to utilize him. Not really because he was churning out 1st downs and running amazing routes or doing the improvising when the play breaks down that Mahomes loves.
I certainly expect him to have a career year, but if he's our #1 WR next year it is going to be a disaster. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
I honestly really hope Juju kills it, it would be amazing. Here though are my list of reasons, both valid and also pretty invalid of why I'm not hyping him up more:
-First, invalid reason: He's under contract for one year. Even if he blows up he's either going to be really expensive or leave. Or, I mean, both. So there's a side of me that wants others to succeed instead. Thankfully what I want has nothing to do with how it plays out.
-Second Juju really succeeded when he, against the odds, maxed out his opportunities. He did this playing second fiddle to Antonio Brown largely out of the slot. Brown left, then Juju not only regressed to the mean when it came to opportunities he also was not nearly as effective playing the X against the best corners. I was more excited about Juju before Tyreek left.
-Third I feel like he's just an extra guy in our offense. We have better route runners, faster guys, bigger guys, guys that catch better. Maybe he can be a Sammy Watkins but I just don't see Juju being that #1 WR for any team ever.
I could be very very wrong but not hearing anything out of camp so far kind of just confirmed my bias. But then again maybe he's a gamer and he'll show up in games. Maybe Mahomes' arm will make him come alive. We'll see.
Er you forgot that part where he played a year with back up qb's in 2019 and then a year with a totally washed up big Ben in 2021 plus he got injured aswell. In 2020 he got 831 yards and 9 Td's playing with Ben who had just come back from his elbow injury so imo when he had competent qb play he balled out even with AB gone. [Reply]
I think this years offense will be better simply bc of the increase of talent overall. Demarcus Robinsonans Marcus Kemp did nothing well. They were liabilities that offered next to nothing. Pringle had good hands but didn’t offer much else.
I think Juju presents us with a Sammy Watkins replacement we haven’t had ever since he left. He’s a big bodied athletic player who can do exactly what Sammy did and there’s a ton of value in that.
MVS and Hardman are not Tyreek but they do provide elite speed as deep threats to keep defenses aware of them. Teams know Mahomes loves to go deep so they wil likely continue to play cover 2 shell.
Skyy is the difference maker IMO. And yes I gave this dude a handy in the draft forum before we ever drafted him.
When was the last time we had a pure route running WR with good hands? I think Jeremy Maclin was the closest thing. Skyy as our 4th WR is going to change games. A 4th corner isn’t going to keep up with this guy. Him and Juju are going to help us so much in the middle of the field against cover 2. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Pringle had good hands but didn’t offer much else.
There was that one time Pringle looked fast. When he had that kickoff return for a TD against the Bengals. Unfortunately it didn't count because they were making sure the game remained competitive at halftime. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
He came on strong with the way the staff finally just decided they were going to utilize him. Not really because he was churning out 1st downs and running amazing routes or doing the improvising when the play breaks down that Mahomes loves.
I certainly expect him to have a career year, but if he's our #1 WR next year it is going to be a disaster.
I dunno man it seems like he had a few long catches towards the end of the season that were pretty hard balls to track. It really looked like she was improving in that sense.