Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
I'm out on Franklin personally. For much of the same reasons I was out on Hyatt last year.i would bet, barring an exceptional combine, Franklin falls out of the top 50 this year.
For me it's Adonai Mitchell, he just looks too slow on tape to me. There's not enough spark in his game to get me excited enough to take him in the 1st and I don't think he fits our play style at all. [Reply]
The primary flaw is the lack of lateral agility on tape. Granted, you can take my opinion with a mountain of salt, as I am still focused on the NFL and haven't watched much of his non highlight stuff and haven't watched much of the rest of the class yet. Fast is good, but agility and acceleration makes for a player with a better route tree and separation in the NFL, imo. I have Legette higher at first blush for this reason. His ability to change speed to create separation will result in more productivity, imo [Reply]
If you're looking to be blown away by acceleration and twitchiness, you should be watching Roman Wilson. There's some strong DeSean Jackson vibes there.
If the Chiefs add a good veteran or two to the room from FA, I could be OK with Wilson as the top guy they add in the draft. Same with Burton. [Reply]
What's the deal with Malik Washington? Sounds like a great fit at the slot in maybe the 3rd or 4th but I haven't seen his name come up around here?
Spoiler!
5-8, 192, 4.5
110 rec, 1,426 yards, 9 TDs, 13 avg
SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS
Excellent field vision, adept at finding soft spots in zone coverage.
Reliable hands, consistently secures the ball in traffic.
Agile and elusive after the catch, capable of turning short gains into big yardage.
Sharp route-running skills, creates separation from defenders.
Strong work ethic, shows dedication to improving his game.
Good football IQ, understands complex offensive schemes.
Versatile, able to line up in multiple positions on the field.
Clutch performer tends to make big plays in critical moments.
SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES
Limited size and stature(just 5-8), potentially impacting his ability to compete against bigger DBs and may limit him to a slot-only role
Lacks elite top-end speed, isn't able to consistently take the top of the defense
Can struggle against physical press coverage.
Limited experience in a diverse route tree.
Needs to improve blocking to be more effective in the run game.
Before his transfer to Virginia put up mostly pedestrian numbers at North Western.
Malik Washington's final season at Virginia put him on the scouting map as a formidable slot receiver. Despite his 5'8" stature, Washington compensates with a running back-like build and exceptional route-running abilities. In 2023 put up a huge year after transferring to Virginia. Washington's quickness and football IQ on the field allow him to exploit defensive weaknesses and consistently find open spaces, proving his worth beyond his physical measurements.
At the pro level, Washington's role is likely confined to the slot due to his size However, his robust skill set – marked by excellent ball skills, agility, and the ability to break tackles – offers a little more than your typical slot player. His overall production in 2023 and clutch performance in critical games hint at a player who can exceed his size limitations
Teams seeking a dynamic and reliable slot receiver will consider Washington a strong mid-round option. His ability to create separation, combined with his mental acuity for the game, makes him an interesting prospect who could put some nice numbers at the next level.
I'm completely out on any WRs below 5'11'' unless they're Tyreek Hill level athletes. You can thank Skyy Moore for that.
Malik Washington isn't anywhere near the athlete Hill is. He's probably not even quite the athlete Moore was.
I mean that is damn near a carbon copy of Skyy Moore's scouting report. Right down to the "This WR breaks tackles" as a feather in his cap. Fellas, that's like saying that the napkins are folded really well at a restaurant. That's scraping the bottom of the barrel to find positives for a player.
Nah - I don't even think I'd bother with Washington on Day 3. I've seen enough of those guys. When your upside is "he might be Richie James someday" then I really have little use for you. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'm in the 5"11-6"2 range for a WR. Anything outside of that is just gotta be an outlier athletically.
6'1'' and about 195 lbs is pretty much the prototype for WRs I tend to prefer.
Outside of your range, you're looking at unicorns. Taller than that and you're looking at guys like Julio Jones and Megatron - planet sized human beings that don't move like it. Or one-trick ponies like Evans. Shorter than that and you need Tyreek Hill or Antonio Brown. Hill is lightning and Brown was just about a perfect technical WR.
There are exceptions here and there, but I wouldn't be inclined to gamble on them heavily. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Whoa! Hot take!
Buuuuuut he's not alone, Jeremiah and 1 or 2 others I've seen have Franklin going in the 2nd. Many others have him going at the very bottom of first, typically to us or the Bills. CP has fallen in love with him a bit and projects him to rise in the draft post combine, but we might be forgetting that Oregon's offenses gets a similar asterisk to TEN offenses... don't they? I'm not 100% sure, again, I'm not a college football fan just a draft junkie.
Ok, wait. Looking for additional opinions on this.
Does the league view Oregon's offense the same way they do TEN?
Are we too high on Franklin based on some gimmick offense? [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I'm completely out on any WRs below 5'11'' unless they're Tyreek Hill level athletes. You can thank Skyy Moore for that.
Malik Washington isn't anywhere near the athlete Hill is. He's probably not even quite the athlete Moore was.
I mean that is damn near a carbon copy of Skyy Moore's scouting report. Right down to the "This WR breaks tackles" as a feather in his cap. Fellas, that's like saying that the napkins are folded really well at a restaurant. That's scraping the bottom of the barrel to find positives for a player.
Nah - I don't even think I'd bother with Washington on Day 3. I've seen enough of those guys. When your upside is "he might be Richie James someday" then I really have little use for you.
Washington separates, that's the difference. There's not all the wasted motion at the release. I like him from R4-5 quite a bit. With the caveat that I am probably the worst evaluator of WR talent. Almost 100% record on being wildly incorrect. So, there's that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I'm completely out on any WRs below 5'11'' unless they're Tyreek Hill level athletes. You can thank Skyy Moore for that.
Malik Washington isn't anywhere near the athlete Hill is. He's probably not even quite the athlete Moore was.
I mean that is damn near a carbon copy of Skyy Moore's scouting report. Right down to the "This WR breaks tackles" as a feather in his cap. Fellas, that's like saying that the napkins are folded really well at a restaurant. That's scraping the bottom of the barrel to find positives for a player.
Nah - I don't even think I'd bother with Washington on Day 3. I've seen enough of those guys. When your upside is "he might be Richie James someday" then I really have little use for you.
Calvin Austin was never a Hill level athlete :-) [Reply]
Just did a mock where DAL took Franklin ahead of us in the 1st and then Legette ahead of us in the 2nd. That duo could be electric! That's my dream combo for KC. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I'm completely out on any WRs below 5'11'' unless they're Tyreek Hill level athletes. You can thank Skyy Moore for that.
Malik Washington isn't anywhere near the athlete Hill is. He's probably not even quite the athlete Moore was.
I mean that is damn near a carbon copy of Skyy Moore's scouting report. Right down to the "This WR breaks tackles" as a feather in his cap. Fellas, that's like saying that the napkins are folded really well at a restaurant. That's scraping the bottom of the barrel to find positives for a player.
Nah - I don't even think I'd bother with Washington on Day 3. I've seen enough of those guys. When your upside is "he might be Richie James someday" then I really have little use for you.
I agree. The build would have to be thicker for me. Toney and Hardman are to light. Part of what made Tyreek good was he had a thicker build. Same with Rice but in different ways.
That's why I see a guy like Malachi Corley as interesting. He's just over 5'10" but 215 lbs. yes he's similar to Rice but if he runs in the low 4.4's and is available in the late 3rd rd, why not take him?
Also I'm still perplexed by Tabk Dell. That kid is 5'8" 165 lbs with 8.5" hands and was incredible. I guess outliers do come up [Reply]
