Sometimes shopping the discount rack isn’t a bad move. I just keep waiting for the list of guys that want to come and play for the vet minimum just to play with Mahomes and get rings. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chieftain:
Lions built their O Line with picks #6, #16, #20. Yeah.
Ronnie Stanley... #6 overall pick.
It is extremely rare to draft a quality offensive tackle outside the Top 20. If you did, it was by pure luck. Chiefs are not afforded this luxury because they draft at the bottom every year. This has been argued for the longest time. Teams are not willing to trade down with the Chiefs and in those rare instances when they do, the top tackles are already gone. So, Burt has no other option but to draft them in the second round or bring in temporary replacement vets. There is no other way to do it.
Not 100% true. Veach could have always over paid to move up and hasn’t. I think all of us would be fine giving up an extra late round 1st too get a stud LT [Reply]
Originally Posted by Balto:
Not 100% true. Veach could have always over paid to move up and hasn’t. I think all of us would be fine giving up an extra late round 1st too get a stud LT
Tell me when exactly what would've worked out and what prospect he should've been targeting and please give me details on the team that was willing to trade the pick for our 2 1's.
It's so easy to say this all after the fact.
We traded a 1 for OBJ.
We went after Trent Williams.
Plenty of indications we wanted to trade up into the high teens to get Mims in this latest draft.
There's a difference between indifference toward a need AND attempting to address a need but not doing so successfully.
We don't need to make stuff up after the fact. [Reply]
I think the guy they really wanted a year ago was Anton Harrison tbh. They spoke to him during the combine, brought him in for a visit too. Then he falls in the draft and they wanted to trade up with the Cowboys but it was too expensive. The freaking Jags then snatched him at 27 despite having two starting tackles already and then we were forced to reach for FAU with the first pick. Then we took Morris two rounds later and signed Donovan Smith. Then in the last draft they wanted Mims but couldn't get a deal done.
If DJ performs well they he could be a good stop gap LT for a couple of years and then maybe Kingsley will be ready. The good thing is both him and Morris have experience at RT too so they still might have a chance to replace Taylor longterm if LT doesn't work out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Tell me when exactly what would've worked out and what prospect he should've been targeting and please give me details on the team that was willing to trade the pick for our 2 1's.
It's so easy to say this all after the fact.
We traded a 1 for OBJ.
We went after Trent Williams.
Plenty of indications we wanted to trade up into the high teens to get Mims in this latest draft.
There's a difference between indifference toward a need AND attempting to address a need but not doing so successfully.
We don't need to make stuff up after the fact.
Yup. There’s a reason why LT is so hard to find. Not many good ones in the draft and they all get drafted high [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Mahomes was absolutely bullied by the media, like florio and Richard Sherman, who raised a huge stink about how it was Mahomes’ fault Lamar couldn’t get the deal he wanted. Mahomes didn’t relent because the media pressured him. He relented because they pushed the narrative that he was letting QBs down by not getting paid enough.
Mahomes specifically said in an interview he was comfortable with the team friendliness of his salary but specifically said he regretted that his contract was holding up deals for other QBs.
It's all the price of success and paying aging players. I'm not saying the paying Chris Jones was a mistake, I'm saying that the Chiefs have a habit of keeping star players past their due dates because it's the feel good thing to do and not necessarily the best for the team.
Companies let good people go all of the time, when I was corporately de-engineered, it was never about my performance, it was just business. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
Jones is still an elite player
The thing on defense is that if you have weak spots around elite guys it’s hard for said elite player to make plays
It’s probably better to have a defense full of good players than one loaded with stars and JAGs.
You can shame around a few problems to pick on Jemell Fleming fairly easily.
That’s why the 2021/2022 drafts made last year’s defense so damn good. We had good players all over the field on rookie deals, which allowed us to also afford Jones. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
It’s probably better to have a defense full of good players than one loaded with stars and JAGs.
You can shame around a few problems to pick on Jemell Fleming fairly easily.
That’s why the 2021/2022 drafts made last year’s defense so damn good. We had good players all over the field on rookie deals, which allowed us to also afford Jones.
Yep, it's price of success and working like the NFL wants. In the pre-salary cap era, teams with owners who wanted to win, would just buy up all of the best talent. The team is going to have to focus on the trenches, it's not as sexy as a Hollywood Brown however this is where the games are ultimately won. I'm sure most of us can list several very good QB prospects who were ruined because there was nothing spent on the OL. Picks spent on WR, RB, TE aren't very useful when the QB is constantly being hit. [Reply]
If, and I do mean IF they hit the threepeat, I can see them sacrificing a draft class to move way the hell up and secure a (presumably) can't miss prospect at left tackle. Shore that position up for 4-5 years and press on. [Reply]