Originally Posted by BroncoBuff:
Yeah, I’m SUCH an ingrate … I NEVER say anything nice about Lamar Hunt.
Oh, wait … yes I do, I go even further than you do. Lamar Hunt was a great man, a truly great man.
Further, I do NOT hate the Chiefs. I DO hate the way you guys put words in my mouth just to “win” arguments with me and run me down. Things I never said and don’t believe. Pretty sad really.
“Hunts” plural? Lamar, yes. Like I said, he was a great man, a truly great and selfless man. Tracing how this modern NFL, America’s favorite entertainment, trace how they got here, and you’ll see the AFL is of paramount importance. NFL ownership then was conservative and old-fashioned – expansion and innovation only happened because of the AFL.
And Lamar had to be selfless to make it happen. He was from Dallas, northeast Dallas near SMU, same as Matthew Stafford, Clayton Kershaw, Boz Scaggs, Steve Miller, Dimebag Darrell and me. He went to college at SMU, and he loved the city. But he saw how the senior league did business - stealing the Vikings from the AFL, jumping into the Dallas market after his Dallas Texans were announced.
But he didn’t fight them - he didn’t sue over their theft of the Vikings (he could have), and after three years he made the impossible decision to move his team out of his hometown, leave the market to the Cowboys. He did what was best for the AFL and his “Foolish Club” (the owners).
And that patience, that approach was how every-single-AFL-franchise survived. Nobody folded. And once they started competing for players, that’s when even the cavemen NFL owners knew that a merger was the only sensible move. Shoot, left to their own devices, the NFL might STILL not have 32 teams - they only had 16 when the merger happened, and that was INCLUDING the AFL-“inspired” Cowboys and Vikings. And what would they have been without an injection of new thinking from innovators like Sid Gillman, Hank Stram and Al Davis? The game would probably still be “three yards and a cloud of dust!”
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And Clark Hunt? I don’t know that much about him. I do know that WE have the richest ownership in the league … and I fairly recently learned who has the SECOND richest ownership: Kansas City. Shouldn't be a surprise, Clark’s uncle Nelson Bunker Hunt nearly cornered the world silver market in the late '70s.
I like Arrowhead, I really do … so I gotta wonder why, with all that money, Clark hasn’t been making deals with local and states (plural) governments to upgrade Arrowhead bit by bit over the years, and why in the middle of a dynasty like yours, the Chiefs still rank in the bottom three or four teams in the quality of their facilities. All that seems like Clark stuff.
We were talking on OrangeHuddle about how our season might've turned out had the Chiefs not blocked that field goal. Difference as I see it - we likely also beat the Chargers on that TNF game, that's about it. So we would've finished 12-5, Wild Card game @ Houston, much better chance to win there than in Buffalo. Then yesterday in Narrowhead, tryna turn a 3-game Win Streak against KC into a 4-gamer...
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
Looks like we got another coach fired. Despite the fake punt call in the playoffs. Our special teams exposed their incompetence on that blocked kick. Another one bites the dust!
Well yeah. I don't know about "another," but this one for sure.
Word is Payton wants to bring his NO asst head coach/spec teams coordinator Darren Rizzi in to take the job. One complication, he was interim head coach this year after Saints fired Dennis Allen, and he just interviewed with Saints brass for that job. We'll see
He must be doing something right ... he started at the Dolphins as special teams coach, and was promoted to assistant head coach. After 9 years in Miami, he went to New Orleans as special teams coach, and was promoted to assistant head coach. Sounds like a real GO-GETTER
Originally Posted by BroncoBuff:
Have the refs screw you out of a Super Bowl
Watch Case Freaking Keenum "Hail Mary" you outta the playoffs with a 65 yarder as time ran out
Take a job to coach the Broncos, and find yourself in the middle of the worst salary cap hell in all history, and gotta babysit a sullen QB who can't grasp your offense
The Payton way
The 3rd one is a peach. If the salary cap situation was that bad, he didn't have to take the job. He willingly signed up for it.
Have fun, he's going to do to the Broncos what he did to the Saints. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The 3rd one is a peach. If the salary cap situation was that bad, he didn't have to take the job. He willingly signed up for it.
Have fun, he's going to do to the Broncos what he did to the Saints.
What? NO ... We all still had hope for Russell Wilson when Payton signed up. And if COURSE Sean knew the whole situation. I'm hoping he doesn't regret anything now that the Cowboys job is open ... he's a Bill Parcells acolyte, and Jerry Jones lives him.
Now. What exactly did he do to the Saints that's so bad?
Originally Posted by htismaqe8:
Yeah bringing in a bunch of buddies for New Orleans is sure gonna work.
That's a VERY common practice for coaches, for anybody in management anywhere ...
And everybody he brought over has been terrific.
Kicker Will Lutz made 31/34 FGs. Two of his three misses were there in Arrowhead - a 60-yarder as 1st half expired, and a blocked try as 2nd half expired. His third miss was a 51-yarder in the rain at the Jets.
That's it. He got robbed of All-Pro by Dallas PK Brandon Aubrey, who made just 40 of 47 FGs, including two misses from 30-39 and two misses from 40-49. Can you believe that?
FUN FACT: Brett Veach came from Philly with Andy Reid [Reply]
Originally Posted by BroncoBuff:
He was not involved in that, he found out after the fact.
He just tried to cover it up.
Try again, idiot. If Payton tried to cover it up, that DOES make him complicit.
Why was Payton trying to cover it up, if he wasn't involved, instead of taking disciplinary action against those involved? <---- You didn't stop to consider that, now did you? [Reply]
I don’t blame Broncos fans for playing what if games but when the coach starts talking about the success they had against teams later in the playoffs (when they couldn’t help but get blown out by the first team they faced) it just becomes sort of pathetic.
Can’t wait to flush these turds again next season. And hearing their elaborate reasons for how they should have won after the Chiefs actually beat them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
I don’t blame Broncos fans for playing what if games but when the coach starts talking about the success they had against teams later in the playoffs (when they couldn’t help but get blown out by the first team they faced) it just becomes sort of pathetic.
Can’t wait to flush these turds again next season. And hearing their elaborate reasons for how they should have won after the Chiefs actually beat them.
Yep. You get the big bucks for winning games in the playoffs, not for losing them when you thought you matched up well with the "next opponent."
When I was in the Air Force we used to say that impacting the ground has a 100% probability of kill. Payton flew them into the ground. [Reply]