Originally Posted by Easy 6:
We're going to hit a slump at some point, probably next year after the threepeat
None of the all time teams have been able to keep up this torrid pace we're on... hate to be that guy, but we can't win them all
Lets just get the triple, everything after that with Pat is gravy
I’ve said this before, but if we follow the patriots model we can fix this quick and easy. You pick one “detox” year. Trade away players weighing down your cap, don’t sign anyone and collect comp picks. You clean up your cap and end up with lots and lots of picks which we know veach will make very good use of.
Patriots were notorious for a big splash offseason followed by a do nothing offseason. Really good strategy once we’ve moved on from our current core guys. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This cannot be a serious question. Holy shit
For real. Tre and Creed are pretty talented players, Thuney is an all pro, our tackle positions seem to always struggle. Jawaan still can’t figure out how to line up and not be penalized after almost 2 years. I might have been being a bit over dramatic, but damn his OL has been struggling all year. Even with the LT position aside. I wish he’d get hired away, or abducted by the cartel. We need a better leader there imo. [Reply]
I take a lot of stock in what the schwartzes say. And they insist up and down that heck is a great coach and that wanya and jawaan just aren’t very good. So I kind of give heck a pass because I don’t know that he’s had much OT talent to work with [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I take a lot of stock in what the schwartzes say. And they insist up and down that heck is a great coach and that wanya and jawaan just aren’t very good. So I kind of give heck a pass because I don’t know that he’s had much OT talent to work with
Andy is a OL guy, that's what he was.
No way does a coach last with him this long in that spot if they aren't good.
Easier explanation is it is hard to find good tackles. You have to keep drafting guys. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Im not saying he should. And specifically said it’s not likely and no one can blame him. But the option is there if he wants to. By all indications he accepted a bigger contract not because he wanted to, but because he was bullied into taking more money because douches like Florio had the audacity to call this selfish for some weird reason
You're making up a narrative that he's gotten a bump because Florio pressured him into it. Are you this naive?
He's going to get some bump every few years. That's how this works. Florio isn't going to bully him into it. And he's never going to push the envelope such that he's getting paid what he's worth. That's his paycut.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This team is entering dangerous territory fellas. Kelce is about to retire. Chris is starting to get up in age to the point where you wonder when he’ll start the decline.
They need to hit at key positions like Tackle and pass rusher badly.
They need another draft like 2022 and I think that’s exactly why Veach was fine trading Sneed for an early 3rd
Chris signed a 158 million contract less than a year ago and you are wondering when he'll start to decline?
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This team is entering dangerous territory fellas. Kelce is about to retire. Chris is starting to get up in age to the point where you wonder when he’ll start the decline.
They need to hit at key positions like Tackle and pass rusher badly.
They need another draft like 2022 and I think that’s exactly why Veach was fine trading Sneed for an early 3rd
You’re not getting a Lt or a pass rusher in the 3rd round.
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Said this before… I’d never put this expectation on mahomes, but given how competitive he is i wonder if he would ever taking a 1-year paycut if it meant fixing the LT and WR position once and for all. I’m always surprised more players don’t do this. If humphries plays well wouldn’t it be nice to lock him up long term?
We’re still waiting on the Mahomes affect. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
I look around the league and see other big money QB's with great OL's and weapons. Jared Goff just got $80M this year and has a completely stacked roster around him. That includes an elite RT on a massive contract, elite receiver on a massive contract, really good LT on a big money contract, etc. Joe Burrow has gotten $110M the last couple years and has Orlando Brown plus WR's Chase/Higgins. Somehow the Eagles have big money players all over their roster (including OL/WR) while paying big money to Jalen Hurts. Lamar Jackson got $80M last year and has Ronnie Stanley on a big money deal at Left Tackle. Josh Allen has had Dion Dawkins for 6+ years, including a big money deal for Dawkins at the moment. On and on it goes. Mahomes already provided the team with a pretty big discount from 2020 to 2022. He could have gone the Burrow route (huge cash flow immediately).
You trying to insinuate that Veach is incompetent? [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
You're making up a narrative that he's gotten a bump because Florio pressured him into it. Are you this naive?
He's going to get some bump every few years. That's how this works. Florio isn't going to bully him into it. And he's never going to push the envelope such that he's getting paid what he's worth. That's his paycut.
No idea how this isn't eminently obvious.
Mahomes was absolutely bullied by the media, like florio and Richard Sherman, who raised a huge stink about how it was Mahomes’ fault Lamar couldn’t get the deal he wanted. Mahomes didn’t relent because the media pressured him. He relented because they pushed the narrative that he was letting QBs down by not getting paid enough.
Mahomes specifically said in an interview he was comfortable with the team friendliness of his salary but specifically said he regretted that his contract was holding up deals for other QBs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
I look around the league and see other big money QB's with great OL's and weapons. Jared Goff just got $80M this year and has a completely stacked roster around him. That includes an elite RT on a massive contract, elite receiver on a massive contract, really good LT on a big money contract, etc. Joe Burrow has gotten $110M the last couple years and has Orlando Brown plus WR's Chase/Higgins. Somehow the Eagles have big money players all over their roster (including OL/WR) while paying big money to Jalen Hurts. Lamar Jackson got $80M last year and has Ronnie Stanley on a big money deal at Left Tackle. Josh Allen has had Dion Dawkins for 6+ years, including a big money deal for Dawkins at the moment. On and on it goes. Mahomes already provided the team with a pretty big discount from 2020 to 2022. He could have gone the Burrow route (huge cash flow immediately).
Lions built their O Line with picks #6, #16, #20. Yeah.
Ronnie Stanley... #6 overall pick.
It is extremely rare to draft a quality offensive tackle outside the Top 20. If you did, it was by pure luck. Chiefs are not afforded this luxury because they draft at the bottom every year. This has been argued for the longest time. Teams are not willing to trade down with the Chiefs and in those rare instances when they do, the top tackles are already gone. So, Burt has no other option but to draft them in the second round or bring in temporary replacement vets. There is no other way to do it. [Reply]