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penguinz 08:51 AM 01-02-2022
2022 getting and staying fit thread!
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penguinz 08:09 AM 08-30-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Figured this out. It wasn't my biceps. It was my left triceps that is bigger than my right. Was looking at my arms in the mirror the other night and saw that I have nearly a full horseshoe in my left triceps, but only about half of one in my right one. Problem solved, lol. (yes, I was flexing)


Weird though, because I do exactly the same number of reps on both sides every time. Now I guess I have to remember to do extra reps on the right for awhile.
It's genetic. Most likely you will never have them be symmetrical.
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BWillie 08:14 AM 08-30-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Been out of the running game awhile; never even heard of Hokas. If they’re just some generic tennis shoe, chuck them and get a real pair of runners.

You should always replace the stock insoles with something designed for your foot and the type of running you’re going to do. I used to use Greenfeet, don’t know if they’re still considered a good insole, or if there’s significantly better at the same price range. But get some.

It sounds like you’re landing too hard, maybe overpronating/bouncing too much, causing that pain in your shins and toe; but without seeing your stride I’m flat guessing.

If you have a HS nearby with X-C or track team, try to talk with the coach. Maybe he/she could look at your stride.
Originally Posted by -King-:
Go to a running store. They'll measure your feet and give you recommendations.
Yes I went to the Running Spot and I spent a pretty penny, like $280. Apparently I have severely arched feet. I HAD running shoes already but now I have a Brooks pair that is more contoured to my feet and have insoles that help with arch support and the difference is night and day! I have never been able to run over 2 miles without stopping before and the first time I tried them I ran 3.5 miles. It turns out it wasn't my heart or lungs after all. It was just my feet and legs were fucking me over. They thought that was what was probably causing me shin splints when I first started a few months ago and now moved to more my achilles & numbing of toes. If I keep at this running thing I could even get custom orthopedics for like $480 lol and it would be even better but I'm sure law of diminishing returns.

I am ready to fly now!

Based on my reading on some running forums it appears in general for distance running high arches without the right support can give you achillies issues and shin splints and flat feet can be more knee problems. My knees are great so that tracks.
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ThaVirus 08:49 AM 08-30-2024
Originally Posted by penguinz:
It's genetic. Most likely you will never have them be symmetrical.
I have slightly asymmetrical abs. Really pisses me off that you can’t do anything about your insertions.

I’ve also never had the Adonis belt and I think that would look pretty rad on me.
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penguinz 09:40 AM 08-30-2024
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Yes I went to the Running Spot and I spent a pretty penny, like $280. Apparently I have severely arched feet. I HAD running shoes already but now I have a Brooks pair that is more contoured to my feet and have insoles that help with arch support and the difference is night and day! I have never been able to run over 2 miles without stopping before and the first time I tried them I ran 3.5 miles. It turns out it wasn't my heart or lungs after all. It was just my feet and legs were ****ing me over. They thought that was what was probably causing me shin splints when I first started a few months ago and now moved to more my achilles & numbing of toes. If I keep at this running thing I could even get custom orthopedics for like $480 lol and it would be even better but I'm sure law of diminishing returns.

I am ready to fly now!

Based on my reading on some running forums it appears in general for distance running high arches without the right support can give you achillies issues and shin splints and flat feet can be more knee problems. My knees are great so that tracks.
FYI, shoes are what causes the issues you are seeing.
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Titty Meat 10:22 AM 08-30-2024
Originally Posted by -King-:
Seems like you already know the point of those machines then
Not really -Queen- I'm not sure the point of the seat lifting up when I'm pulling down on the lat pull
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penguinz 10:25 AM 08-30-2024
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Not really -Queen- I'm not sure the point of the seat lifting up when I'm pulling down on the lat pull
Ahhh, those machines.... They are trash. Use the static machines or hammer strength if your gym has them.
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Titty Meat 10:35 AM 08-30-2024
Originally Posted by penguinz:
Ahhh, those machines.... They are trash. Use the static machines or hammer strength if your gym has them.
I do the hammer ones for incline press and love it
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BWillie 11:01 PM 09-10-2024
Can someone explain why Zone 2 training works like I am a toddler? Ive only ran once with my Garmin Golf watch which will tell me my heart beat and apparently I'm always running in zone 4 and even zone 5. My heartbeat is routinely 170 to 185 especially by the end of my run. I thought this was a good thing. But My friend who ran cross country and long distance track at our college said this is bad to do often and to run at zone 2 for a long time and for the great majority of your training. Apparently that is like fast walking speed for me. Even my "easy runs" are upper zone 3/lower zone 4.
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penguinz 09:32 AM 09-11-2024
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Can someone explain why Zone 2 training works like I am a toddler? Ive only ran once with my Garmin Golf watch which will tell me my heart beat and apparently I'm always running in zone 4 and even zone 5. My heartbeat is routinely 170 to 185 especially by the end of my run. I thought this was a good thing. But My friend who ran cross country and long distance track at our college said this is bad to do often and to run at zone 2 for a long time and for the great majority of your training. Apparently that is like fast walking speed for me. Even my "easy runs" are upper zone 3/lower zone 4.
You need to slow down and build your speed up as your heart starts performing more efficiently.

Are you well hydrated? If you are on TRT or self supplementing you should get your hematocrit checked.
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BWillie 09:37 AM 09-11-2024
Originally Posted by penguinz:
You need to slow down and build your speed up as your heart starts performing more efficiently.

Are you well hydrated? If you are on TRT or self supplementing you should get your hematocrit checked.
That was on my past blood work. It was always within range. No no supplements except some mushroom stuff. Definitely not on TRT. Did my first zone 2 run today and it was so boring. Im too competitive. It doesn't feel like I'm doing anything. But the science says thats how I will improve for a race so Ill keep trying.

I never drink when I run because I never run longer than a half hour previously. Today I ran 5 miles in an hour slow as fuck. Didnt even feel like I needed water when I was done. Felt like such a schlub.
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penguinz 09:58 AM 09-11-2024
Originally Posted by BWillie:
That was on my past blood work. It was always within range. No no supplements except some mushroom stuff. Definitely not on TRT. Did my first zone 2 run today and it was so boring. Im too competitive. It doesn't feel like I'm doing anything. But the science says thats how I will improve for a race so Ill keep trying.

I never drink when I run because I never run longer than a half hour previously. Today I ran 5 miles in an hour slow as ****. Didnt even feel like I needed water when I was done. Felt like such a schlub.
You should never base needing to drink on feeling thirsty. Best way to get an idea of how much you need to consume is to weigh yourself before exercising and then after. Unless you ate a shitload during your workout or took a massive shit then the weight loss is water.

8oz of water is just over one pound. So if you are down two pounds you need to consume 16oz to get back to pre-excercise hydration.
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myselff77 10:04 AM 09-11-2024
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Can someone explain why Zone 2 training works like I am a toddler? Ive only ran once with my Garmin Golf watch which will tell me my heart beat and apparently I'm always running in zone 4 and even zone 5. My heartbeat is routinely 170 to 185 especially by the end of my run. I thought this was a good thing. But My friend who ran cross country and long distance track at our college said this is bad to do often and to run at zone 2 for a long time and for the great majority of your training. Apparently that is like fast walking speed for me. Even my "easy runs" are upper zone 3/lower zone 4.
There's a podcast I sometimes listen to with Vinnie Tortorich called Fitness Confidential. He had an episode on this just last week called "Slowing Down to Be Faster with Phil Maffetone". If you want more in depth explanation, go listen to that episode.

I'm kind of in your same boat. I didn't really have a Zone 2. A walk would be Zone 1 and once I ran, I would instantly jump to 170ish bpm in Zone 5. I'd basically run a mile, walk a minute and repeat for the 3-7 miles I was running and could maintain this just fine.

I've gotten slower and less frequent running since surgery on my knee for a meniscus tear. As a result, my heart rate isn't peaking nearly as much averaging more in the 150s. I've tried the Zone 2 training a few times but never committed enough to see results. I understand the benefits, but it's frustrating to move so slow to build up the endurance you'll eventually see.
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ThaVirus 10:24 AM 09-11-2024
Originally Posted by penguinz:
You should never base needing to drink on feeling thirsty.
That’s what people did for like a billion years before modern sports science lol
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ToxSocks 10:28 AM 09-11-2024
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
That’s what people did for like a billion years before modern sports science lol
It's like waiting for the low oil light to come on in your car before checking your oil.
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ToxSocks 10:29 AM 09-11-2024
Ive been slackin' like a mofo this past month. Ive lost some momentum. Been to the gym like 3 times in the last 3 weeks and havent really been playing any sports either. I can see it in the mirror.
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