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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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RaidersOftheCellar 06:58 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Why would the wheels fall off now? We've played the 3rd hardest schedule in the league so far, and the #1 hardest in the AFC. I fully expected us to be 0-4 at this point. Our next 2 opponents are worse than any team we've played so far.
Let’s be honest…those are likely four fringe playoff teams. Not quite murderer’s row. KC’s schedule has probably been tougher.
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jjchieffan 07:29 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by manchambo:
That's how it works if you need a QB. The hit rate shows you may well need to take a couple of shots to find the right person.

And I don't see how they're worse. They're 2-2 vs. 1-3 last year. The offense hasn't moved the ball consistently and they also didn't do that last year.

Positive difference is that instead of going to Florida and giving up 70 they shut down a pretty good Tampa offense.
A couple of shots? The Donks are 0 for, what, 8 since Superface 50? Let's count them. 1. Asswiper, 2. Semen, 3. Swag, 4. Keenum, 5. Flaccid, 6. Lock, 7. The corpse of Wilson, 8. Mo Pix. If you want to just talk about wasted dray picks, we can cut it back to 0-4. Either way, that is Cleveland Browns level futility. But you Kool aid drinkers have believed that every single one of them was the answer. Which, I guess that they were. The problem is that the question was, what quarterback is going to be the next flop to set t the cheating Donks back further?

Did I forget someone? I feel like I did. But the Donks have changed quarterbacks so often, that it's hard to keep up.
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manchambo 08:21 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by jjchieffan:
A couple of shots? The Donks are 0 for, what, 8 since Superface 50? Let's count them. 1. Asswiper, 2. Semen, 3. Swag, 4. Keenum, 5. Flaccid, 6. Lock, 7. The corpse of Wilson, 8. Mo Pix. If you want to just talk about wasted dray picks, we can cut it back to 0-4. Either way, that is Cleveland Browns level futility. But you Kool aid drinkers have believed that every single one of them was the answer. Which, I guess that they were. The problem is that the question was, what quarterback is going to be the next flop to set t the cheating Donks back further?

Did I forget someone? I feel like I did. But the Donks have changed quarterbacks so often, that it's hard to keep up.
Well obviously the people currently running things aren’t responsible for all those picks. But denver has had a string of pretty poor performance/luck drafting QBs. Part of the problem is we almost never manage to get bad enough to get a top pick. It would arguably be better if we would have managed that, but then again we might have picked Zach Wilson or any other of a bunch of top five busts.
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TEX 08:34 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by manchambo:
Well obviously the people currently running things aren’t responsible for all those picks. But denver has had a string of pretty poor performance/luck drafting QBs. Part of the problem is we almost never manage to get bad enough to get a top pick. It would arguably be better if we would have managed that, but then again we might have picked Zach Wilson or any other of a bunch of top five busts.
Wow! You're posting here at night. Denver must have won. B/C when they lose, you're MIA. :-)
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Mile High Mania 09:16 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by TEX:
Wow! You're posting here at night. Denver must have won. B/C when they lose, you're MIA. :-)
Ha..
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RealSNR 09:38 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by manchambo:
Well obviously the people currently running things aren’t responsible for all those picks. But denver has had a string of pretty poor performance/luck drafting QBs. Part of the problem is we almost never manage to get bad enough to get a top pick. It would arguably be better if we would have managed that, but then again we might have picked Zach Wilson or any other of a bunch of top five busts.
The Chiefs weren't bad enough to get Mahomes. We got him because we had better scouting than everybody else.

You could also get a real QB if you had really good scouts.
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DomCasual 09:48 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Let’s be honest…those are likely four fringe playoff teams. Not quite murderer’s row. KC’s schedule has probably been tougher.
Another blistering-hot take from our resident spokesperson for the Kansas City Chamber of Commerce. :-)

The Broncos opponents’ record is 11-5. In other words, they’ve played a playoff team.

The Chiefs opponents’ record is 7-9. And when you break that record out, it’s a 7-9 team that has overachieved.

The Ravens are starting to figure it out. Not so much when they played the Chiefs (they lost at home to the mighty Raiders the next week).

The Bengals need to play a little better to be considered a dumpster fire. Good thing you have a good kicker, or they would be a dumpster fire that beat the Kansas City Chiefs.

The Falcons? Well, Raheem Morris snapped defeat from the jaws of victory in that one. He takes the points, and you likely lose (also, the back judge ignoring a blatant PI on Kyle Pitts made his contribution).

You guys keep mentioning how injured the Bucs were when we blew them out in their house? Well, I see your Bucs and raise you squeaking by against the corpse of the Chargers on the road in the annual extra home game the AFC West gets when they play at the Chargers.
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TEX 10:00 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Another blistering-hot take from our resident spokesperson for the Kansas City Chamber of Commerce. :-)

The Broncos opponents’ record is 11-5. In other words, they’ve played a playoff team.

The Chiefs opponents’ record is 7-9. And when you break that record out, it’s a 7-9 team that has overachieved.

The Ravens are starting to figure it out. Not so much when they played the Chiefs (they lost at home to the mighty Raiders the next week).

The Bengals need to play a little better to be considered a dumpster fire. Good thing you have a good kicker, or they would be a dumpster fire that beat the Kansas City Chiefs.

The Falcons? Well, Raheem Morris snapped defeat from the jaws of victory in that one. He takes the points, and you likely lose (also, the back judge ignoring a blatant PI on Kyle Pitts made his contribution).

You guys keep mentioning how injured the Bucs were when we blew them out in their house? Well, I see your Bucs and raise you squeaking by against the corpse of the Chargers on the road in the annual extra home game the AFC West gets when they play at the Chargers.
Try to finish above .500 JUST ONCE this decade, before coming over here spewing your DonkTard BS. Until then, :-) and stop trying to Orange Huddle up Chiefs Planet. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
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DomCasual 10:04 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by TEX:
Try to finish above .500 JUST ONCE this decade, before coming over here spewing your DonkTard BS. Until then, :-) and stop trying to Orange Huddle up Chiefs Planet
Tex, two things can be true at the same time.

1) We have not been good for almost a decade.

and

2) ROTC’s take is bad - very bad.

And no need to get worked up. Saying our schedule through four games has been more difficult than yours is not saying we are better than you.
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TEX 10:08 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Tex, two things can be true at the same time.

1) We have not been good for almost a decade.

and

2) ROTC’s take is bad - very bad.

And no need to get worked up. Saying our schedule through four games has been more difficult than yours is not saying we are better than you.
Dont say anything until .500 JUST ONCE THIS DECADE! :-)
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jjchieffan 10:32 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by manchambo:
Well obviously the people currently running things aren’t responsible for all those picks. But denver has had a string of pretty poor performance/luck drafting QBs. Part of the problem is we almost never manage to get bad enough to get a top pick. It would arguably be better if we would have managed that, but then again we might have picked Zach Wilson or any other of a bunch of top five busts.
I remember when the Cheating Donks drafted high enough to get Josh Allen, but instead got Bradley Chubb. They drafted high enough to get . In 2020, you could have had Jordan Love. But your team took Judge Judy over Justin Jefferson, Brandon Ayuk, Tee Hiiggins, Michael Pittman, and Ceedee Lamb at 15. All better receivers. In 2021, Justin Fields and Mac Jones were available at your pick. Instead of taking a shot on one of them, or maybe taking Micah Parsons, Denver took Surtain. The next 2 years were thrown away on Russell Wilson. The 9th overall pick could have land Kenny Picket, or non QB Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, or Charles Cross. 2023, you guys would have had the 5th overall pick and 29 from trading Chubb. You could have traded up for CJ Stroud from there. Or Will Anderson. But instead, those picks were wasted on Wilson and Paydayton. So this year comes around and your incompetent drafting team decided that they're getting a first round quarterback no matter what. So they was the 12th overall pick to take the 6th quarterback in the draft. Then they convinced the gullible Denver fanbase that he was who they wanted all along. Rofl. That is an epic list of fail in a short period of time. With drafting like that, your team will share the futility of the Cleveland Browns. Just a factory of sadness. Pathetic.
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BlackOp 10:59 PM 09-30-2024
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Another blistering-hot take from our resident spokesperson for the Kansas City Chamber of Commerce. :-)

The Broncos opponents’ record is 11-5. In other words, they’ve played a playoff team.
The true "hot take" is your rationalization of that turd of a team you root for...like when they had that fluke win streak last year. Everyone knew is was an aberration.

They are not good...no matter how you want to frame it. Your QB is another wasted pick...so it's just more of the same wishful projection. We'll have this same conversation two seasons from now..when they draft his replacement.

One of these decades...they'll get it right.
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DomCasual 12:04 AM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by TEX:
Dont say anything until .500 JUST ONCE THIS DECADE! :-)
Come on, Tex. I'm not trolling. We actually probably agree on most of this.

I am not arguing that the Broncos are on the Chiefs level. They clearly aren't.

That being said, you probably agree with me on two things:

1) The Broncos defense is good; and

2) Nothing even remotely good comes of this season for them if the offense doesn't improve.

Where we differ would be with these concepts:

1) The defense is better than it was last year (I believe it is).

2) If the defense isn't the best defense in the NFL, it is certainly top-5.

3) Bo Nix's start is in no way indicative of whether or not he will succeed in the NFL.

4) The offense will look much different in, say, week 16 than it has so far.

Do you disagree with any of the first part of that?
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RaidersOftheCellar 01:14 AM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Tex, two things can be true at the same time.

1) We have not been good for almost a decade.

and

2) ROTC’s take is bad - very bad.

And no need to get worked up. Saying our schedule through four games has been more difficult than yours is not saying we are better than you.
How'd you prove me wrong? I'm aware of the records. I'm also aware that they're virtually meaningless at this point.

Baltimore isn't "starting to figure it out." They were very good last year and might be even better this year. They've been great in every game but the Raiders (probably overlooked them).

Not sure what point you were trying to make by mentioning that KC's games have been close. It's like you were trying to prove my point. Tough games = close games.

You call it a "7-9 team that's overachieved." Then you go on to say that they all could/should have beaten the Chiefs. If they were good enough to beat the Chiefs and should have a better record, that means they've underachieved. You drunk?

And yeah, when you lose one of the top receivers in the league (after already losing your #2 and your top RB) at the start of the game, you're probably not going to tear apart a defense that leads the league in points allowed.

As for the Broncos' schedule...

Seattle has home wins over the mighty Broncos and Dolphins w/ Skyler Thompson, and an OT win vs the Patriots. Tonight, they played the first good team on their schedule and got slapped down. Jets have beaten the Patriots and Titans. They'd have to try to have worse records. Neither team has proven a thing and both are likely average or below.

KC's faced Lamar Jackson, Burrow, Cousins and Herbert. Denver's faced Geno, Fields, Mayfield and Rodgers' corpse. Yet it's a "very bad" take to argue that KC may have played a tougher schedule? Lol

The only thing I'll amend about my original comment is that TB might be better than a fringe playoff team. Although they clearly weren't that day.
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TEX 04:44 AM 10-01-2024
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Come on, Tex. I'm not trolling. We actually probably agree on most of this.

I am not arguing that the Broncos are on the Chiefs level. They clearly aren't.

That being said, you probably agree with me on two things:

1) The Broncos defense is good; and

2) Nothing even remotely good comes of this season for them if the offense doesn't improve.

Where we differ would be with these concepts:

1) The defense is better than it was last year (I believe it is).

2) If the defense isn't the best defense in the NFL, it is certainly top-5.

3) Bo Nix's start is in no way indicative of whether or not he will succeed in the NFL.

4) The offense will look much different in, say, week 16 than it has so far.

Do you disagree with any of the first part of that?
Less words. Finish.500+ JUST ONCE! :-)

My broken clock is right twice a day but it still sucks. Just like Denver. :-)
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