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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Kingsley Suamataia Thread*****
Dante84 07:20 PM 04-26-2024
More to come!

Spoiler!

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Balto 09:08 PM 09-18-2024
Good read on keeping faith for our rookie tackle!

https://sidelionreport.com/2021/10/1...er-five-weeks/

Detroit Lions: Penei Sewell can’t be a bust after five weeks
By Fayez AliAhmad | Oct 12, 2021

Penei Sewell has had some struggles the last couple weeks, but it’s way too early to call the Lions’ rookie tackle a bust.
Detroit Lions rookie offensive tackle Penei Sewell has been up and down through five weeks. In Week 5, he got an education from Vikings defensive end Everson Griffen. An ankle injury that limited him in practice during the week was not helpful.

Now a segment of Lions’ fans (and other fans) want to call Sewell a bust. But five games does not make a career, and here are some examples.
Example No. 1: Andrew Thomas
Left tackle Andrew Thomas gave up four sacks in the first five games of his rookie season. His rookie season was so rough that passing on Tristan Wilfs and Jedrick Willis looked like a huge mistake.

Thomas finished the season with 10 sacks and 57 pressures given up. Fans claimed the Giants made a mistake taking him with the fourth overall pick in the 2020 NFL draft.
Thomas has looked far better so far this season, before not playing in Week 5 due to an injury. He graded similarly to Wirfs, and better than Willis. Thomas hasn’t given up a sack in 182 pass blocking snaps this season and is on pace to only allow 20 pressures. He’s looking like the player the Giants selected with a top-five pick in the draft.
Other recent examples: Kolton Miller

Position Switch Example: Jake Matthews
I know what you’re going to say next… “but Sewell is going to play right tackle when he should be staying at left, it won’t work.” Enter Atlanta Falcons left tackle Jake Matthews.
Jake Matthews, selected sixth overall by the Falcons in the 2014 draft, was a natural right tackle until he switched positions his senior year in college. When the Falcons drafted him, the goal was to move him back to right tackle, his natural position, but injuries changed that plan and they allowed him to stay at left tackle.

His rookie season went poorly, here is a quote from an unnamed Pro Football Focus analyst back in 2015 via an ESPN Article:
"“The state of [Atlanta’s] offensive line will once again be a concern, with Matthews in particular needing to take a huge step forward after an ugly rookie season (he allowed seven sacks and 51 total pressures).”"
Matthews is still the Falcons starting left tackle after eight seasons, and is one of the premier pass blockers in the NFL.

Generational Talent Example: Trent Williams
​​Sewell was tabbed by many as a generational talent, despite opting out of his final season at Oregon. So he should be good right away, right?
This is where a comparison to future Hall of Fame offensive tackle Trent Williams comes into play. Williams was my NFL comparison for Sewell. Both were athletic freaks for how big they were coming out of college.

Williams gave up 11 sacks his rookie season and had teams questioning his work ethic after being selected fourth overall by Washington back in 2010. Today, Williams is still playing elite football for the San Francisco 49ers.
Final Thoughts: Let’s slow down with Penei Sewell
All of this doesn’t mean Sewell will pan out and eventually become an elite left tackle, as was ordained by several analysts. But a handful of games playing left tackle in the NFL, after not playing football last year, is way too early to say Sewell will be a bust.
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Hammock Parties 10:59 PM 09-18-2024
chip help will be coming

chiefs put him on island to see how he'd do and he had a good game and a poor game

they'll recalibrate playcalling going forward

nothing to worry about
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RunKC 11:16 PM 09-18-2024
Well Jawaan Taylor has improved massively from where he was this time last year. He’s pick up where he left off in the playoffs, so 4/5 OL are smashing assholes out there allowing Andy to either shift plays right, utilize RPO’s and provide chip help.

Pass protection stats for OT

Upper right = good | Bottom left = bad pic.twitter.com/xr8hLFILgI

— Stat Acccount (@AcccountStat) :-)68?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2024


Not putting on my tinfoil hat here but I do believe that Andy did not go full on pass bc he knew he had a rookie 2nd rd LT that needed work and running the ball would both help that rookie tackle as well as attack cover 2.
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Dunerdr 06:07 AM 09-19-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Well Jawaan Taylor has improved massively from where he was this time last year. He’s pick up where he left off in the playoffs, so 4/5 OL are smashing assholes out there allowing Andy to either shift plays right, utilize RPO’s and provide chip help.



Not putting on my tinfoil hat here but I do believe that Andy did not go full on pass bc he knew he had a rookie 2nd rd LT that needed work and running the ball would both help that rookie tackle as well as attack cover 2.
Hate to say it but Kinsley may need to start jumping the snap like Taylor.
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Sassy Squatch 06:14 AM 09-19-2024
Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar:
I'm not going to read too much into the rookie in his 2nd game having trouble with the 3x pro bowler

also damn Hendrickson is crazy looking what the fuck

Looks like something you'd see purposely fucking with the sliders on a Create a Player for Madden.
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ThaVirus 06:42 AM 09-19-2024

Pass protection stats for OT

Upper right = good | Bottom left = bad pic.twitter.com/xr8hLFILgI

— Stat Acccount (@AcccountStat) :-)68?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2024

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pugsnotdrugs19 08:49 AM 09-19-2024
Jawaan is a good pass blocker. It's why he got paid. The penalties last year screwed with his game but he's settled in and well worth the money if he continues to play this way.

Didn't even notice him in the playoffs or so far this year.
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Boxer_Chief 09:24 AM 09-19-2024
No wonder Hendrickson wears a tinted visor on his helmet, good lord.
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DJ's left nut 09:31 AM 09-19-2024
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Jawaan is a good pass blocker. It's why he got paid. The penalties last year screwed with his game but he's settled in and well worth the money if he continues to play this way.

Didn't even notice him in the playoffs or so far this year.
It's also gonna be a situation where teams start putting their best rusher against the other guy.

Taylor's going to draw easier assignments. Especially if we continue to play our TE in the slot instead of in-line.
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pugsnotdrugs19 09:34 AM 09-19-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
It's also gonna be a situation where teams start putting their best rusher against the other guy.

Taylor's going to draw easier assignments. Especially if we continue to play our TE in the slot instead of in-line.
Oh yeah, Crosby is for sure flipping that week I would imagine.

It's on coaching now to help him when he needs it. Having the four other spots rock solid should make that more than doable.
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pugsnotdrugs19 09:35 AM 09-19-2024
Jawaan is another example of physically gifted 2nd round pick that struggled early on before figuring this thing out. Should be willing and able to coach Kingsley up.
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Hammock Parties 09:44 AM 09-19-2024

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BWillie 09:44 AM 09-19-2024
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Looks like something you'd see purposely fucking with the sliders on a Create a Player for Madden.
I literally just laughed out loud...by myself.
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ThrobProng 09:48 AM 09-19-2024
I don't remember...who was worse after their first 2 starts, Kingsley or Eric Fisher?
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Hammock Parties 09:50 AM 09-19-2024
Originally Posted by ThrobProng:
I don't remember...who was worse after their first 2 starts, Kingsley or Eric Fisher?
Fisher by far.

I don't remember Fisher or Wanya having a game like Kingsley did against BAL.
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