Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Nobody considers #31 as a first rounder.
Nobody.
Dangling #31 for a premier left tackle?
Nobody's taking that trade.
Then package #31 with something else...try and get in the top 20 to get someone. otherwise, it'll be the same thing next year with Mahomes running for his life against teams with athletic defensive fronts. they got away with it in 2022 and 2023 by avoiding those such teams. this year the line got exposed by Houston and Philly. [Reply]
I’ve lost all hope on Andy Heck developing young tackles. Best would go out in the FA market (Ronnie Stanley) and get one that’s proven and pray Andy heck doesn’t make them regress like the other two that were brought in. Ah yeah, remember when Detroit lions asked if we wanted to have scrimmage games? Maybe we should do those. we can get true evaluations on our tackles. Morris and Kingsley going up at the likes of FAU and Mike Dana in practice have given us false evaluations. Also demote or better yet fire Heck and bring in Munchak as Oline coach. [Reply]
Originally Posted by SHOWTIME:
Then package #31 with something else...try and get in the top 20 to get someone. otherwise, it'll be the same thing next year with Mahomes running for his life against teams with athletic defensive fronts. they got away with it in 2022 and 2023 by avoiding those such teams. this year the line got exposed by Houston and Philly.
You're not saying anything everyone doesn't already know.
Everyone wants a good left tackle, I'm just telling you what's real.
What's real is:
Nobody's all that excited about pick#31-or the fact that any package of picks is all second to last in any round.
This draft is not a good draft for left tackles, by all accounts.
This team is about to have a ton of holes everywhere as guys are up for free agency.
There's nobody worth a shit at all at left tackle that are free agents.
So yeah, this is not as simple as SPEND MONEY or PACKAGE PICKS TO MOVE UP.
Quite frankly the OL coaching has been piss fucking poor recently. How many games this year has the entire OL just shit all over themselves for large swathes of game time? Off the top of my head there's the Bills, Panthers, Raiders, Chargersx2, and obviously the Eagles. Stack that on top of the games where the LT near singlehandedly ruined the game plan
against the Bengals, Raiders, Broncos and we're up to at least a third of the games roughly. [Reply]
They've pretty clearly already given up on Morris. Dude isn't even dressing anymore. It's Suamataia or bust for an in house fix or shell out top dollar for mediocrity with Cam Robinson and hope to God he can at least provide a baseline of competence that Mahomes can operate in. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
You're not saying anything everyone doesn't already know.
Everyone wants a good left tackle, I'm just telling you what's real.
What's real is:
Nobody's all that excited about pick#31-or the fact that any package of picks is all second to last in any round.
This draft is not a good draft for left tackles, by all accounts.
This team is about to have a ton of holes everywhere as guys are up for free agency.
There's nobody worth a shit at all at left tackle that are free agents.
So yeah, this is not as simple as SPEND MONEY or PACKAGE PICKS TO MOVE UP.
The guy is not there in either pool.
There are plenty of LTs out there that are better than what we have right now. It may not be Jonathan Ogden, but we just need sufficient at this point...this is why Veech gets paid. It's his job to build this roster, not CP. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
You're not saying anything everyone doesn't already know.
Everyone wants a good left tackle, I'm just telling you what's real.
What's real is:
Nobody's all that excited about pick#31-or the fact that any package of picks is all second to last in any round.
This draft is not a good draft for left tackles, by all accounts.
This team is about to have a ton of holes everywhere as guys are up for free agency.
There's nobody worth a shit at all at left tackle that are free agents.
So yeah, this is not as simple as SPEND MONEY or PACKAGE PICKS TO MOVE UP.
The guy is not there in either pool.
Ronnie Stanley? I'd probably take that, fix various other holes and hope to God next year's OT class looks better. On that...does it?...please tell me it does. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
Ronnie Stanley? I'd probably take that, fix various other holes and hope to God next year's OT class looks better. On that...does it?...please tell me it does.
He's going to get paid. He's not an option for KC, not with $11M cap space. [Reply]
lane johnson was drafted #4 overall and the eagles fell ass backwards into mailata in the 7th round. what do you expect us to do here with the 31st pick in the fucking draft?
the only answer is gut guys, fix the cap allocations, and pay up big on ronnie stanley.
thats it. that is literally the only IMMEDIATE solution and it is going to leave you exposed elsewhere as a result. so pick your poison. [Reply]
Originally Posted by SHOWTIME:
There are plenty of LTs out there that are better than what we have right now. It may not be Jonathan Ogden, but we just need sufficient at this point...this is why Veech gets paid. It's his job to build this roster, not CP.
Show me your list.
I'll wait.
It's pretty much Ronnie Stanley or bust. And that would need Ronnie to want to leave Baltimore, where he's a good fit and has been his whole career. Move his family.
there's nobody else on the list that is guaranteed to be an upgrade. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Show me your list.
I'll wait.
It's pretty much Ronnie Stanley or bust. And that would need Ronnie to want to leave Baltimore, where he's a good fit and has been his whole career. Move his family.
there's nobody else on the list that is guaranteed to be an upgrade.
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
You're not saying anything everyone doesn't already know.
Everyone wants a good left tackle, I'm just telling you what's real.
What's real is:
Nobody's all that excited about pick#31-or the fact that any package of picks is all second to last in any round.
This draft is not a good draft for left tackles, by all accounts.
This team is about to have a ton of holes everywhere as guys are up for free agency.
There's nobody worth a shit at all at left tackle that are free agents.
So yeah, this is not as simple as SPEND MONEY or PACKAGE PICKS TO MOVE UP.
The guy is not there in either pool.
None of what you said is true. We’ll see if any actually hit FA, but Stanley, Jackson,‘and even Cam Robinson are all viable upgrades at LT.
Guys like Simmons and Campbell are possibly within trade range with a significant trade up which may be necessary and worth it. Guys like Conerly and Ersery will likely take some development so pair them with Humphries as a short term option.
There are routes to go, doing fucking half assed ain’t it anymore. [Reply]