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Bearcat 08:14 PM 01-26-2021
2021:
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New for 2023-24!

Fallacy: Big underdogs willing themselves to victory in the playoffs.
Possible Narrative: The underdog has nothing to lose! They'll B-E aggressive!
The Truth: Mahomes has only ever lost to Brady and Burrow in the playoffs, and two of those games went to OT. Stop worrying about every brokedick quarterback, every run-first team, every "tHeY'rE cOnFiDeNt AnD nOt InTimIdAtEd!!" team.
Examples: Being fearful of the Browns, Jags, the Titans FFS.

Fallacy: Paying a franchise QB handcuffs your team towards mediocrity (or at least fewer Super Bowls)
Possible Narrative: Rebuild year, reload year, the imminent demise of the Kansas City Chiefs, and the general "complete team vs quarterback".
The Truth: The quarterback position is pretty important. It's so important, in fact, you can get away with having an average or below average defense, a mediocre run game, unproven receivers, and so on... even to the extent that a one-legged franchise QB is better than most NFL teams. Obviously, the rest of the team can't suck ass and there's always a fine line between winning and losing in the biggest games of the year, where those other pieces matter the most, but you wouldn't be in that position if it weren't for paying the man.

Possible Narrative: The Chiefs need to retain non-Mahomes guy or sign the best player at their position in free agency.
The Truth: A franchise QB makes up for lesser talent elsewhere on the roster, and having the top QB in the league is a much larger gap than "only" having a top 15 guy at another position.
Examples: Tyreek, Hopkins, needing the best LT ever, etc.

Fallacy: The NFL is out to fuck the Chiefs.
Possible Narrative: Every loss is rigged for whatever reason is made up after they lose. Basically everything that happens is the NFL's way of figuring out how to fuck the Chiefs.
The Truth: Can we please just let this one fucking go? :-) The Chiefs won the AFCCG and SB on defensive penalties at the end of the game and still didn't have to play a road (or neutral site!) game. I think we're good.
Examples: Every single loss. Hamlin is the drama the NFL needs to push the Bills to the SB... oh, and the NFL wants to experiment with neutral sites forever after they force the Chiefs to play in Atlanta. Ratings. Fly over country. Vegas. New stadiums.

Fallacy: Regular season momentum exists.
Possible Narrative: Teams can't flip a switch. (this is from the 2021 version, but should be reiterated)
The Truth: A team with playoff experience and success can certainly play vanilla in the regular season and do things to avoid injury, etc; and then dig deep into the playbook while recklessly throwing themselves into defenders when the games really matter.
Examples: The Defending Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs
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Bearcat 07:22 PM 08-02-2023
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I used to be into Red Robin. As in "go there on my birthday" into it. But then for some reason I cooled on it. I'm not really into their fries so much, and they really only had one burger that I got every time, which was always kind of messy to eat. I haven't been to one in several years now, but wouldn't mind going back.
I had a gift card that I hadn't used in like 4 years, so it was a good excuse to finally try it.... granted, the gift card only covered half the bill due to the $20 burgers.

I'd rather go to The Habit, Smashburger, etc; one of the few times I go out for a burger. RR was good, but not earth shattering by any means.
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Chris Meck 07:29 PM 08-02-2023
to the OP, 2023 version:

The Chiefs simply must sign (insert big name player here) or they're in real trouble. Brett Veach is a roster building superman and has got this.
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Jewish Rabbi 07:30 PM 08-02-2023
Red Robin is basically Applebee’s for burgers. Overpriced for what you’re getting but not too bad every now and then.
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Bearcat 03:27 AM 08-03-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
to the OP, 2023 version:

The Chiefs simply must sign (insert big name player here) or they're in real trouble. Brett Veach is a roster building superman and has got this.
Probably the biggest offseason drama every year... added!
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chiefzilla1501 07:35 AM 08-03-2023
I can’t believe I’m saying this considering how much I wanted to draft a franchise qb

I do think there’s something to a team that’s willing to churn and burn QBs. If you’re Patrick mahomes and maybe burrow, you can get away with soaking up tons of payroll. If you’re trying to win it all with big money to Daniel jones? Good luck. For Lamar? I don’t think he’s good enough and certainly not a long term threat.

The biggest threat to the chiefs the past few years were buffalo and cincy, two teams who excelled on a rookie qb contract. Two of their toughest outs were Tennessee and San Fran. The problem is many of these teams become too content once they find a qb who can manage games. But a team that takes this approach but drafts a qb every year is still kind of an interesting idea. If you don’t have Patrick mahomes it’s going to be really hard to build a team around a high dollar qb.
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chiefzilla1501 07:38 AM 08-03-2023
I often wonder how Seattle would’ve fared if they got rid of Russell way sooner. They always believed in constant qb experimentation. And they arguably kept him around due to public pressure. There was always a sense that they were very interested in moving him and getting picks in the process
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Bearcat 09:33 PM 02-19-2024
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Possible Narrative: Mahomes is a product of his insane weapons. Pat simply throws to wide-open Kelce or Hill on every play.

The Truth: This is horseshit. Mahomes is most likely THE best ever.

Example: The Chiefs pre-Mahomes as a starter? Maybe a playoff win. The Chiefs post-Mahomes as a starter? AFC Championship game at a minimum. More likely, the Chiefs are Super Bowl Champs/Favorites.
Three years later, I'd say this one is looking pretty good. :-)
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FloridaMan88 11:07 PM 02-19-2024
The Chiefs did sort of disprove the first fallacy.

They weren’t “big” underdogs… but still underdogs from the Divisional through the Super Bowl.
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Pitt Gorilla 11:09 PM 02-19-2024
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Three years later, I'd say this one is looking pretty good. :-)
:-)
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DenverChief 09:23 PM 12-01-2024
How have I missed this thread :-)
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Bearcat 09:38 PM 12-01-2024
Originally Posted by DenverChief:
How have I missed this thread :-)
It's okay, it sometimes takes years for greatness to be realized and acknowledged.
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