First - I am writing this without having watched - only listened to half of the 2nd quarter and half of the 3rd. Had to go on an airport run.
Second - we were going to lose at some point, we were fortunate our first loss wasn't last week, yes we made a play at the end of the game but the odds of a FG block ar astronomical. Unfortunate that the first loss comes against Buffalo but we still hold a one game lead against them for the #1 Seed. Buffalo still has to play the 49ers and the Lions of which could be at least one loss. Our schedule is much easier as far as opponents I am concerned with only Denver and the Steelers. I would rather lose to Buffalo now than in the playoffs.
The INT by Pat was just horrible. I get the pocket was collapsing around him but he needs to get better about air mailing passes. Have seen too many of those in the past couple of weeks. Glad to see the rest of the game wasn't
Worthy was the entire first scoring drive (except the Mike Caliendo for 5 yards :-)). It was almost as if the Chiefs decided to showcase the WR Buffalo traded to them. What a great drive for Worthy 4 receptions for 61 yards and a TD.
Noah Gray with his first multi touchdown game. Hendershot with another catch. I feel like he has made more of a difference with this offense than Wiley has.
The Defense seems to want to blitz Allen from the right side forcing him to his right, which is a huge mistake. Allen can make all the throws rolling to his right. Gotta find the way to pressure him and force him to the left.
N. Johnson got picked on quite a bit today but he managed to have a decent game despite this. The more experience he gets the better we will be as we approach the playoffs. Tied for team lead in tackles with 8 (Connor).
Connor had a great game got the timely INT on 4th down to give the ball back to the O which led to our second score. The Defense isn't getting home with 4 rushers. Hoping Omenihu is going to make more of a difference when he comes back.
Kinda felt like the Allen TD was a "let him score" situation so Pat could get the ball back and we could try again for the win with an onside kick or some other miracle play.
Juju really wasn't the impact I was hoping he would be coming back into the mix with Dhop and Kelce. Hoping Pacheco and Hunt can make us deadly in the running game. Worthy seemed to disappear after that first scoring drive. Hunt was running the ball well but for some reason we weren't using him during the two offensive series it was 16-14
First game in a long time where we lost the TOP 34:03/25:57 - still lost the TO battle 2/1
Didn't get a good look at the OL but they seemed to have done better as the game went on. The first Q was pretty shaky. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
The offensive game plan just convinces me even more they use every regular season game as preseason... Worthy with all the touches on one possession. Don't think Kelce even had a target(?) in the first half, down by 9 and the Chiefs look like their usual postseason-selves.
I'm sure Mahomes is also uncomfortable because of LT issues, but then it's suddenly not an issue either.
They just aren't going to the same well over and over and over for the sake of scoring 40... there's purpose beyond what we want to see.
Defense was odd since the Bills were terrible on first and second downs most of the game... 3rd and long over and over and over. Of course, Allen is going to be pretty decent at those anyway, but just a very strange feeling overall from the defense (not that any of it matters much outside of today's game).
I definitely think there is an element of this involved.
But the problems we’ve seen during the regular season in prior years didn’t go away during the playoffs, Chiefs just found a way to overcome them. Like a bad receiving corps last year, and bad rush defense prior years. Bad offensive line is harder to overcome than those things though. See the Tampa Super Bowl. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Long term this may be the best thing for us, if we get to rest starters in Weeks 17 or 18.
Because now there is no reason not to if it comes to that.
This loss makes it less likely they can rest starters, 1 seed is not going to be clinched before the last week now. It would have been better to lose any other game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Andy wasn’t using a game that would have given the Chiefs with a win, essentially a four game lead for the AFC #1 seed as a “preseason game”.
Originally Posted by chiefforlife:
We had a really conservative game plan. Outside of the Worthy drive, everything was very short passes.
On some of Kareems runs the O line was moving people backwards 2-3 yards but we decided not to do that anymore.
Kareem did not get a single pass, with all the short passing why not give Kareem a chance to break some tackles and run some guys over.
The pass to the O lineman was weird. Yeah it worked but why break that out in that situation.
Why not keep Worthy going? D Hop who I believe caught that deep one was incredible but didnt get a lot of chances. Juju with only one? Not to mention Kelce?
That was the strangest game this year, all the way around. Defense was off, offense was off and even special Teams coverage was off.
It felt like we failed to match up to the intensity of the Bills, they really wanted that game. They are a good team for sure, congrats on the win but we just laid an egg today and yet still had a chance to win.
The way we used worthy to me speaks volumes about what we wanted out of Hollywood brown. By playoff time we will either have Hollywood back or worthy will be more experienced and able to handle the role better [Reply]
The Chiefs were sloppy in almost every phase of the game today. It was a cringeworthy performance. Andy usually has a couple of these games each year. I don't know why, but it's like they forgot to stay alert and play smart football. This was a team effort today... a total sloppy effort to lose a game.
Maybe the Chiefs have been believing the PR about themselves... [Reply]
I do think Pat looked more decisive this game. Yeah, he still had some mistakes -- that first pick. But I thought he seemed willing to just rip it a few times. [Reply]
It’s so obvious as soon as they trot out for the 4th and 2 that Allen is going to scramble for it. Run a double qb spy or something. Because it should not be that easy [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Wait til you see the game.
Offense had one or two good drives, but otherwise just too many mistakes, and if we're honest, Pat had a bad day overall. He was off-target but got bailed out a few times by DHop and whoever else, and Andy didn't call his best game.
But on the bright side, now we can at least stop hearing about the dumb undefeated season crap.
Agree, Pat had one of his all-too-often not great games today. Let's see if he digs deep and makes our O a force to be dealt with, but today was very uninspiring.
And the D's lack of impact with first contact was very apparent and I'm not sure how these egos go back to fundamentals and remember that wrapping up is paramount.
It was not a day the Chiefs want to remember, but one they need to never forget. If they just blow it off as "a loss" and not look at the huge problems that lead to it, they have more heartbreak ahead. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCJake:
Every time I say this, I get 5 people that tell me to stfu. But I’m telling you guys Patrick Mahomes is not the QB he used to be. Our defense has been winning and keeping us in games for basically 2 seasons now. Worthy doesn’t have a defender within 20 yards of him and Mahomes throws a shitty pass that leads Worthy right out of bounce. You can’t tell me that Mahomes is a better QB right now then he was 3-4 years ago. Does anybody else notice this ??? Is it the fact that Tyreek Hill is gone?? Mahomes is a top 3 QB in this league. Which is great . I’ll take it. But it’s a huge step back from what he was
Yea I see it and I think he can fix it idk what it will take but he looks like fried ass turd. Has for awhile he makes plays still the winning formula but hasn’t been what he used to be. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Agree, Pat had one of his all-too-often not great games today. Let's see if he digs deep and makes our O a force to be dealt with, but today was very uninspiring.
And the D's lack of impact with first contact was very apparent and I'm not sure how these egos go back to fundamentals and remember that wrapping up is paramount.
It was not a day the Chiefs want to remember, but one they need to never forget. If they just blow it off as "a loss" and not look at the huge problems that lead to it, they have more heartbreak ahead.
Wasn't on the defense. BUF had 10 drives, scored on 5 of them. That's not great, but it's also not bad.
Our offense had 9 drives tonight. Managed just 3 scores. Just one score in 4 drives in the second half.
I've been saying it for awhile now, and I love great defense, but in today's NFL, you need to score points on offense to win big games. We've leaned on the defense and STs, and fortunate calls by the refs, and watched our offensive efficiency slowly decline, until the last few weeks when we needed poor coaching decisions by the opposing team to get Ws.
Well, today we finally scraped the bottom of that barrel. If we score 33% of the time, we're going to get beat by most decent teams, plain and simple.
I mean, obviously no one intended for the Chiefs to go into this season without Rice and Hollywood, or lose Pacheco to injury, but that's what happened, and just like last season, we're a popgun offense. Which is fine if they're efficient, like say scoring around 45%+ of drives. But that's not where we are. And for some reason we traded for one of the best possession WRs since Jerry Rice or Larry Fitzgerald, and we don't target him more than 3-5 times a game. We'd rather run screens to Perine, or waste targets on Watson and Hendershot.
Well, it came back to bite us finally. Fortunately, not big deal, just a regular season game, and I have little doubt we'll have the 1- or 2-seed regardless. But then we'll be playing against teams that can actually play offense and defense.
We need to get back to players over plays. We just can't afford to waste targets on PS players that may or may not execute in the playoffs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Wasn't on the defense. BUF had 10 drives, scored on 5 of them. That's not great, but it's also not bad.
Our offense had 9 drives tonight. Managed just 3 scores. Just one score in 4 drives in the second half.
I've been saying it for awhile now, and I love great defense, but in today's NFL, you need to score points on offense to win big games. We've leaned on the defense and STs, and fortunate calls by the refs, and watched our offensive efficiency slowly decline, until the last few weeks when we needed poor coaching decisions by the opposing team to get Ws.
Well, today we finally scraped the bottom of that barrel. If we score 33% of the time, we're going to get beat by most decent teams, plain and simple.
I mean, obviously no one intended for the Chiefs to go into this season without Rice and Hollywood, or lose Pacheco to injury, but that's what happened, and just like last season, we're a popgun offense. Which is fine if they're efficient, like say scoring around 45%+ of drives. But that's not where we are. And for some reason we traded for one of the best possession WRs since Jerry Rice or Larry Fitzgerald, and we don't target him more than 3-5 times a game. We'd rather run screens to Perine, or waste targets on Watson and Hendershot.
Well, it came back to bite us finally. Fortunately, not big deal, just a regular season game, and I have little doubt we'll have the 1- or 2-seed regardless. But then we'll be playing against teams that can actually play offense and defense.
We need to get back to players over plays. We just can't afford to waste targets on PS players that may or may not execute in the playoffs.
Is it a wasted target if the WR/RB/TE not named Hopkins/Worthy/Kelce/JJSS catches the ball and makes a play? Watson had a couple good catches, Hendershot caught a ball for 1st and Goal and Grey caught 2 TD passes. I mean I understand what you are driving at but gotta have the team approach. Not all the big names are going to have great games all the time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DenverChief:
Is it a wasted target if the WR/RB/TE not named Hopkins/Worthy/Kelce/JJSS catches the ball and makes a play? Watson had a couple good catches, Hendershot caught a ball for 1st and Goal and Grey caught 2 TD passes. I mean I understand what you are driving at but gotta have the team approach. Not all the big names are going to have great games all the time.
We didn't even try to get it our best play-makers at the end. Travis had 1 target all game? DHop had 3? JuJu had 1???
When you get down to your last couple drives and you need to put up 9 pts, yeah, the only players that should be getting the ball should be your best play-makers, imo.
Currently, that would be Travis, DHop, JJSS, and Kareem. After that, Mecole, because he's been in those situations and has come up big for us in the past multiple times. You want to dink around and be cute, fine, do it earlier in the game. But when you have to have it, when you're down to your last couple shots, you have to make them count.
