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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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Buehler445 02:38 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by Pointer19:
"Time in the market is more important than timing the market."

I understand this, but I keep holding most of my cash and waiting for that next recession. Should've bought more last March.
At your age just set up an investment account of your choice, Roth is a good bet if you won’t need the money and set up an automatic deposit, and allocate it once a year.

You’re good man. These guys talking individual stocks are like betting the line on the NBA. Don’t do it with real money.
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Mr. Wizard 02:39 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
OK, gonna buy something here today.

ZOM, SNDL or NGA?
Barchart says ZOM by a mile both short and long term, SNDL short term, NGA no way
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Hog's Gone Fishin 02:43 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by MTG#10:
100% disagree, but still interested in your reasoning.
He has the gut instinct of a GOD. He doesn't need reasoning.
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Hammock Parties 02:47 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by MTG#10:
100% disagree, but still interested in your reasoning.
some guy on CP recommended it
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TinyEvel 02:48 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
So the bottom line is a 30 year loan is a 30 year loan unless you have the ability to pay it in full at some point. I've never seen this discussed or explained , EVER . And I've read tons of books and info.

So , In hindsight the problem lies in having a 5yr ARM instead of a fixed loan for the whole term it appears.
So what you are saying is, even if you make extra principle payments over the years, it doesn't move up the end date of your loan, it just adjusts the remaining balance of principle/interest over the existing 30 years of payments.

Loans are all designed to screw the borrower. The same way that its all heavy interest to Principle ratio that declines slowly. even if you pay it off entirely in one chunk sum at the midpoint, the bank gets like 70 percent of the principle total established at the onset.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 02:58 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by TinyEvel:
So what you are saying is, even if you make extra principle payments over the years, it doesn't move up the end date of your loan, it just adjusts the remaining balance of principle/interest over the existing 30 years of payments.

Loans are all designed to screw the borrower. The same way that its all heavy interest to Principle ratio that declines slowly. even if you pay it off entirely in one chunk sum at the midpoint, the bank gets like 70 percent of the principle total established at the onset.
YES,YES! I guess if you have a 30 year fixed you will benefit but if you have the ARM and quit making additional principal after it adjusts you've just wasted time and money.

I always thought with an ARM the only thing that adjusts is the interest rate. Not so.
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TinyEvel 03:04 PM 02-18-2021
The couple of Times we've done an ARM we've always planned to (and did) either sell the home or re-fi to a fixed before the ARM takes place. But the re-fi only makes sense after a couple of years (to cover the new closing costs/fees) and even then its not as smart as your broker says it is. You still waste money there.

This year there were no lenders giving fixed 30 year loans above $770K (or jumbo loans) which is the loan you need to get in California (places like LA and SF and surrounding areas) since most 3 bedroom homes are 1.1 - 1.5 million.
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MTG#10 03:06 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
some guy on CP recommended it
But their CEO's name is Dong
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TinyEvel 03:08 PM 02-18-2021
PLUG down to $50. Hold, sell, or buy more?
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Hammock Parties 03:09 PM 02-18-2021
EBON down 2% after hours

bullet dodged!
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Hog's Gone Fishin 03:11 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by TinyEvel:
The couple of Times we've done an ARM we've always planned to (and did) either sell the home or re-fi to a fixed before the ARM takes place. But the re-fi only makes sense after a couple of years (to cover the new closing costs/fees) and even then its not as smart as your broker says it is. You still waste money there.

This year there were no lenders giving fixed 30 year loans above $770K (or jumbo loans) which is the loan you need to get in California (places like LA and SF and surrounding areas) since most 3 bedroom homes are 1.1 - 1.5 million.
I think the solution ,which my banker said he could do , was to do a loan modification at the 5 years. So for example I could take the remaining 25 years and have them change it to 10 so I have the 15 yr loan in essence. Yes the required payment will be higher but I hate paying all the interest on a long term loan anyway. So looks like you got out of their scandle.
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MTG#10 03:12 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
EBON down 2% after hours

bullet dodged!
Yeah it must be over, bankruptcy incoming.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 03:13 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by TinyEvel:
PLUG down to $50. Hold, sell, or buy more?
I wouldn't sell anything today unless you want money to put in a better choice.
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SupDock 03:35 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
I think the solution ,which my banker said he could do , was to do a loan modification at the 5 years. So for example I could take the remaining 25 years and have them change it to 10 so I have the 15 yr loan in essence. Yes the required payment will be higher but I hate paying all the interest on a long term loan anyway. So looks like you got out of their scandle.
I assume this would essentially be a refinance, and have associated fees?
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Hog's Gone Fishin 03:40 PM 02-18-2021
Originally Posted by SupDock:
I assume this would essentially be a refinance, and have associated fees?
My bank will do a loan modification with minimal fees . No appraisal needed. Basically just a little paperwork. They're so wonderful.
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