Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
You can give Paton all the shit in the world for the Russell Wilson trade, but the last time Paton was fully stocked with draft picks he did this:
1st Pat Surtain: about to become the highest paid CB in NFL history
2nd Javonte Williams: was amazing before he suffered a significant knee injury
3rd Quinn Meinerz: about to become the highest paid guard in NFL history
3rd Baron Browning: good rotational EDGE with upside
5th Caden Sterns: starting caliber safety
5th Jamar Johnson: out of the league
6th Seth Williams: out of the league
7th Kary Vincent Jr: traded for a future 6th
7th Jonathon Cooper: starting edge
7th Marquise Spencer: out of the league
Who are you trying to convince? You or me?
The Broncos have (I think?) the longest streak without a playoff appearance in the NFL. If it's not them, they're at least close to being the longest. Morons with power is why they've been losers for so long. Guys like Paton. That's why they're losers.
And for some reason you think Paton is great and should keep his job. You got what you got out of Paton. You've seen what he is. And you want more of it.
Shit, at least Chiefs fans were smart enough to realize Pioli was a fraud. You actually believe that the way forward for your franchise is what you've currently got at GM.
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Who are you trying to convince? You or me?
The Broncos have (I think?) the longest streak without a playoff appearance in the NFL. If it's not them, they're at least close to being the longest. Morons with power is why they've been losers for so long. Guys like Paton. That's why they're losers.
And for some reason you think Paton is great and should keep his job. You got what you got out of Paton. You've seen what he is. And you want more of it.
Shit, at least Chiefs fans were smart enough to realize Pioli was a fraud. You actually believe that the way forward for your franchise is what you've currently got at GM.
Unbelievable.
Q Joe “believes” in whoever is currently in the Broncos’ front office, on the coaching staff, or on the roster. As soon as that person leaves the organization, he throws them under the bus, blames them for everything that went wrong, and begins fellating their replacement. Wash, rinse, repeat, with no exceptions. It really is that simple. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
Imagine not only paying Russel Wilson nearly as much as Mahomes, but also the draft capital wasted on him. Same for that washed up Payton.
And THEN imagine being a fan who says, "MOAR PLZ" [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Well, this IS the guy who hyped Keenum and Washed Russ while shitting on the Mahomes pick. If he gets something right one of these days, it will probably be a sign that the end is nigh.
It’s amazing if you look at it even from an unbiased perspective. Absolutely no one would look at Paton’s resume and Veach’s resume and come away thinking Paton was even close to Veach. Veach has made better FA signings overall and has drafted far better despite drafting near the end of the first round every year. Veach also was smart enough to walk away from Tyreek when he did and used the assets and cap space to build the foundations of this back to back SB run.
Paton did draft Surtain II, but it’s clear that he is not a player who moves the needle on a bad team. Not saying that he’s a bad player at all because he isn’t, but when you are drafting Top 10, you have more pressing needs than CB (outside of freak situations). The Wilson situation is a fireable offense. Veach turned something like $700 into long term deals for Mahomes (the largest contract ever), Jones, and Kelce while Paton is eating a massive dead cap hit because of the Wilson contract. He has failed on all his HC picks and it remains to be seen if Payton is the savior Denver hopes he is.
Overall the best we can hope for as KC fans is that the Broncos ownership team thinks of Paton the way Knowmo does. It will ensure they continue to be at the bottom looking up to one of their biggest rivals who lap them in every category. All they will have is post draft hope before reality inevitably crushes them again. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
You can give Paton all the shit in the world for the Russell Wilson trade, but the last time Paton was fully stocked with draft picks he did this:
1st Pat Surtain: about to become the highest paid CB in NFL history
2nd Javonte Williams: was amazing before he suffered a significant knee injury
3rd Quinn Meinerz: about to become the highest paid guard in NFL history
3rd Baron Browning: good rotational EDGE with upside
5th Caden Sterns: starting caliber safety
5th Jamar Johnson: out of the league
6th Seth Williams: out of the league
7th Kary Vincent Jr: traded for a future 6th
7th Jonathon Cooper: starting edge
7th Marquise Spencer: out of the league
Looks a lot like the Chiefs plan in the late 1970's and all of the 1980's. Good times those were! [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Q Joe “believes” in whoever is currently in the Broncos’ front office, on the coaching staff, or on the roster. As soon as that person leaves the organization, he throws them under the bus, blames them for everything that went wrong, and begins fellating their replacement. Wash, rinse, repeat, with no exceptions. It really is that simple.
Exactly, before the draft he was all about McCarthy, because there were stories linking him to Denver. Now it's,"Nix was my guy all along!" :-)