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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Saul Good 08:36 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Isn't that why the BigIIX was flirting with Kentucky, because of the pure awesome factor they bring to the table?
The Big IIX will take any warm body they can get right now as evidenced by the Loiusville and Cincy overtures. That said, I don't recall seeing anything about UK being courted. Surely Kentucky would rather be in the Big IIX. I mean, who wouldn't want to make that upgrade?
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eazyb81 08:40 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
The Big IIX will take any warm body they can get right now as evidenced by the Loiusville and Cincy overtures. That said, I don't recall seeing anything about UK being courted. Surely Kentucky would rather be in the Big IIX. I mean, who wouldn't want to make that upgrade?
And evidenced by the West Virginia invitation after they were turned down by every other conference in the country. I'm sure they are solid on the Big 12 now though.
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Bowser 08:43 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
The Big IIX will take any warm body they can get right now as evidenced by the Loiusville and Cincy overtures. That said, I don't recall seeing anything about UK being courted. Surely Kentucky would rather be in the Big IIX. I mean, who wouldn't want to make that upgrade?
KSU and ISU would be natural rivals with 'tucky.
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Saulbadguy 08:47 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Stewie:
Neither Saul nor you would know a single question to ask.
Stewie, I've forgotten more about the airline industry than you've ever known.
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Titty Meat 08:48 AM 10-26-2011
Mizzou fans will get aroused by Vern Lundquist.
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Bowser 08:52 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
Stewie, I've forgotten more about the airline industry than you've ever known.

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Saul Good 08:57 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Bowser:
KSU and ISU would be natural rivals with 'tucky.
Ooh, do you think they'll wanna come to the Big East with us?
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Bowser 08:59 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Ooh, do you think they'll wanna come to the Big East with us?
:-)

We can only hope.....
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duncan_idaho 09:00 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Mizzou will lose to LSU and Bama just like they lose to OU and TX now, and just like almost every team loses to those teams now.

Ex OU and TX (combined 1-7 if my math is correct), Mizzou is 7-5 against the remaining South teams, which have been comparable to the mid-tier SEC teams.

So hopefully win the 4 non-con games, and go 4-4 or 5-3 in the SEC. I'll take an 8-9 win season in the SEC with a nice New Year's Day bowl in Florida every year.
This is basically the way I see it. In the current Big 12, a "Good" season for Missouri is going to contain 9- or 10 wins. In the SEC, a "Good" season is going to be more like 8 wins. 8 wins from the SEC is going to result in a better bowl result than 10 in the Big 12 in a lot of years.

Here's a sample schedule I've seen posted, if Missouri ends up in the SEC East, as expected.

4 non-con creampuffs
at Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
at South Carolina
at Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Texas A&M
at Arkansas

Sounds scary, based on the names, but compares pretty favorably to this season's schedule.
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eazyb81 09:02 AM 10-26-2011
West Virginia to the Big 12?

Not so fast my friend.

Appears Louisville is trying to beat them to the chapel for the Big 12's #10 spot.

http://www.wvmetronews.com/news.cfm?...&storyid=48764
Originally Posted by :
There is speculation that the "bump" was a push by Louisville.
The Dominion Post’s Drew Rubenstein reports that there was a "late push" by the University of Louisville to be considered instead of WVU.
"Sources used terms like ‘volatile’ and ‘internal battle’ to describe the conference realignment with the Big 12," Rubenstein reported.
Last night, WVU called off preliminary plans for a press conference today.

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Saul Good 09:09 AM 10-26-2011
Looks like we got ourselves a city vs country showdown to see who can take the second ugliest girl to the dance.
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Mr. Plow 09:20 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Looks like we got ourselves a city vs country showdown to see who can take the second ugliest girl to the dance.

Yup....and you couldn't even get the second ugliest girl at the dance to take her panties off and now you think you are going to get the prom queen naked.



Analogies return bitches!
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Saul Good 09:23 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Yup....and you couldn't even get the second ugliest girl at the dance to take her panties off and now you think you are going to get the prom queen naked.



Analogies return bitches!
Whatever. The prom queen is texting us naked pictures, but the ugly girl is threatening to kill our dog if we leave.
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Pants 09:26 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Whatever. The prom queen is texting us naked pictures, but the ugly girl is threatening to kill our dog if we leave.
Pretty sure he's talking about winning things. LOL
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Mr. Plow 09:28 AM 10-26-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Whatever. The prom queen is texting us naked pictures, but the ugly girl is threatening to kill our dog if we leave.

Yeah, but if you ever see the prom queen and say hi to her in public, she'll act like she doesn't know you and embarrass you in front of her cool friends.
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