Originally Posted by staylor26:
No, you just don't understand what words mean or how any of this works.
You're both an idiot in general, and you clearly don't know ball. Bad combination to try to have this back and forth with, and a total waste of my time.
Originally Posted by New World Order:
If Bo Nix can lead you guys to a postseason appearance every 5 years you'll build a statue in his honor with the way your franchise is going.
Originally Posted by New World Order:
If Bo Nix can lead you guys to a postseason appearance every 5 years you'll build a statue in his honor with the way your franchise is going.
If he leads us to two postseason appearances in his career, that would make him the 5th most successful QB in Broncos history behind Elway, Manning, Morton, and Plummer. [Reply]
Could be worse. You could be starting a 4th round QB from last years draft who didn't complete a pass in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th quarter in the game against the Chiefs last Christmas.
If Denver was picking 6th overall this year are they taking Bo Nix? [Reply]
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
If he leads us to two postseason appearances in his career, that would make him the 5th most successful QB in Broncos history behind Elway, Manning, Morton, and Plummer.
Does it bother you Mahomes has the same number of sbs than all of those guys put together? [Reply]
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Well, since we unfortunately don't have the actual posts and threads from then, I am only guessing, based on my flawed memory (trust me on the flawed part). But my guess is that the consensus there was similar to what you all are saying about Bo Nix here. Not only are posters on football message boards not the best player personnel people, when they are posters on a rival's message board, they post with an obvious bias.
For the record, Mahomes was definitely the QB I wanted in that draft. Easy to say that now, of course, but it's true.
There are some here that like Nix. I'm not extremely high on him, but I'm not extremely low either. I've said he's likely a middle of the road starter. If so, it could be a lot worse than that. Broncos haven't had that in a decade. [Reply]
Goodman: Bo Nix is an Auburn hero for exposing the truth about Bryan Harsin
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The biggest test of the season is here for Auburn and the offense under new coach Hugh Freeze might be the worst in the SEC.
If not for Alabama.
We knew it would be a struggle this season for Auburn, but the true extent of former coach Bryan Harsin’s hamfisted handiwork is beginning to show itself. And now it’s time for the big reveal.
Ready or not — and it’s not — Auburn gets No.1 Georgia at Jordan-Hare Stadium on Saturday. Let’s get this out of the way now. Current Auburn coach Hugh Freeze gets a pass on this entire season, and the focus of every decision for his staff should be figuring out how to recruit Atlanta like Auburn basketball coach Bruce Pearl recruits Atlanta.
This is a big weekend for the Atlanta kids.
I’m not saying stick a shirtless, slightly unhinged Bruce Pearl in the middle of football recruits on Saturday and then have him lead a community baptism of five stars into lakes of NIL cash and free cars, but I’m also not against the general spirit of that plan.
Back in 2021, a prominent high school coach in Alabama was the first person to let me know that Harsin was probably in over his head at Auburn. Harsin had been Auburn’s coach for many months at that point, and he still hadn’t called the high school coach to ask about one of his top players. The high school coach knew for a fact that the player in question wanted to attend Auburn.
How did the high school coach know? Because the top recruit was his son.
Freeze can’t blame Harsin after this season, but everything we’re seeing on the field with Auburn’s awful offense is tied to Harsin’s wretched time on the Plains. Harsin was so destructive in his two years as Auburn’s coach that he makes me want to throw a party in honor of former Auburn coach Doug Barfield and rename a street on campus after him.
Barfield Boulevard — make it a road to redemption, or at least an alleyway to absolution.
We knew Harsin was the worst coach in the history of Auburn football before he was fired, but if former Auburn quarterback Bo Nix wins the Heisman this season then Harsin will go down as the worst coach in the history of the Southeastern Conference.
In 2021, Harsin ran off one of the best quarterbacks in the country who had already defeated Alabama as a freshman. If Nix raises the Heisman or wins the national championship with Oregon, then the shame of allowing Harsin to lose Nix will be a ghost that haunts Auburn as long as football is played in the SEC.
It’s Freeze’s job this season to pick up the pieces from that disaster and somehow figure out a way to make a bowl game. On Saturday in Auburn’s SEC opener, Freeze benched starting quarterback Payton Thorne against Texas A&M and then benched backup Robby Ashford for third-stringer Holden Geriner. What’s next? At this point, “Run It With Robby” looks like Auburn’s best option for gaining first downs. At least that’s a start.
But it’s not hard to figure out what’s fundamentally wrong with Auburn’s offense these days. Just watch Oregon. The guy who at least gave Auburn a chance in every game is winning big for the Ducks. As it turned out, Nix took the field against Colorado this past Saturday just moments after Auburn’s 27-10 loss to Texas A&M went final. Nix threw three touchdowns against Colorado, completing 28 of 33 passing attempts. Auburn’s quarterbacks combined to go 9 of 23 passing against Texas A&M for a grand total of 53 yards.
What did we learn about Auburn against Texas A&M that we didn’t already know? Not much, but those preseason rumors of resurrection along Auburn’s offensive line were greatly exaggerated. Texas A&M sacked Auburn quarterbacks seven times. Georgia’s defensive line is rated better than A&M’s and the Bulldogs’ secondary is tied for the conference lead in interceptions (seven).
Former Auburn coach Gus Malzahn had trouble recruiting offensive linemen. The most recent former Auburn coach, Harsin, apparently didn’t even know a single phone number for an offensive line recruit. Why did Nix ultimately leave Auburn for Oregon? Because he was seriously injured playing behind Auburn’s offensive line.
With better protection at Oregon, Nix is looking more and more like a first-round draft pick every week.
Auburn vs. Georgia used to be one of the most balanced rivalries in the SEC. Since 2001, or Mark Richt’s first season with the Bulldogs, Georgia leads the series 17-6. Since 2011, the season after Auburn’s national championship season with Cam Newton, Georgia is 11-2 against Auburn. Georgia has now won six in a row and the gulf between the two teams is greater than at any point in the last 100 years. This past weekend, Smart earned his 85th career victory. It gave him the highest winning percentage in SEC history for a coach after his first 100 games.
Here’s something to consider about the recent history of the Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry. Since Smart took over for the Bulldogs in 2016, Georgia’s defense has only allowed more than 14 points in one game against the Tigers.
Auburn has the 2017 victory on Kirby and that’s it.
Led by transfer quarterback Jarrett Stidham and running back Kerryon Johnson, the 2017 Auburn Tigers blew out a No.2-ranked Georgia team 40-17 at Jordan-Hare. A couple weeks later, the Tigers knocked off No.1 Alabama 26-14 in the Iron Bowl. Unfortunately for Auburn, Georgia returned the favor in the 2017 SEC championship game and Alabama went on to win the national championship.
That magical fortnight in November 2017 is the last time an Auburn football team was ranked in the Top 10 in the final month of the regular season.
For his career, Nix is 0-4 against Georgia. I hope he gets another shot to finally knock off the Bulldogs this season. It wouldn’t be a victory in any sense for Auburn, but it would at least underscore the importance of his decision to abandon Harsin rather than give him cover.
Nix’s legacy at Auburn is tied to Harsin, but only for this reason. Nix had to leave the team he loved to ultimately save it. He forced everyone to see how thoroughly Harsin had torn down the Tigers. For that, I’ll consider Nix an Auburn hero.
Sad but true, Nix’s greatest gift to Auburn was leaving.
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
First, Drew Brees didn't become The Drew Brees until a coach with the last name of Payton decided to take a chance on him. At that point, he was a QB that had thrown almost 60 INTs in 4 years as a starter, and had so impressed the team he did it for that they offered him almost no guaranteed money. Injury was obviously a part of that. But look at his numbers in San Diego and tell me what was special about him.
You guys definitely apply revisionist history to Brees/Payton. Brees was 5th in OPOY voting in 04 and went to the PB, but no one wanted him? He also had one of the lowest INT percentages and TD percentages of his career that season.
You said that he immediately transformed under Payton, but his numbers only went up because he threw a lot more passes. TD% and comp% both went down in his first year in NO. The only improvement was INT%, but that was lower two years earlier in San Diego. He also had a lot of talent around him in NO and was entering his prime years.
As for what was special about his stats? Welp, this is awkward, but.....his 2004 season was statistically better than any season in Elway's entire career. It would be his highest TD total, fewest INTs, lowest INT%, highest Y/A, and by far his highest comp% and QB rating. And only a few years after Elway retired.
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Second, you're applying revisionist history to the perception of Patrick Mahomes. Is Patrick Mahomes a freak that can do some things on the field that arguably no other human has ever been able to do? Yeah, he is. But most of the pre and post-draft commentary I've seen about him focuses more on his negatives than potential positives. Good on the Chiefs, though. They called it right, and then took the initiative to go get him. History will rightfully laud them for that. But in their wildest dreams, even they didn't dream that Patrick Mahomes would do what he's done, at this stage of his career.
I know for a fact that you do not know the ingredients that are necessary to take a child that is drafted and turn him into a man that wins Super Bowls. Because if you did, you wouldn't be posting on ChiefsPlanet. As Garcia mentioned, the guy who coached the evolution of drew brees into Drew Brees is bullish on Bo Nix. I'll go with it.
KC gave up a hell of a lot to trade up and get Mahomes. Veach had been obsessively scouting him and pounding the table for years. Payton didn't have to give up anything. It's easy to say after the fact that he got "his guy" and "I feel the same about Nix as I did about Mahomes." He'd probably be saying the same thing about Penix or McCarthy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Eureka:
Could be worse. You could be starting a 4th round QB from last years draft who didn't complete a pass in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th quarter in the game against the Chiefs last Christmas.
If Denver was picking 6th overall this year are they taking Bo Nix?
Sean Payton made it pretty clear that Nix was the third quarterback on his board - Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels being the top 2. So maybe if they're at 6, they find a bit more motivation to try and knock Washington's socks off with an offer to get to 2. But even then, I didn't get the impression Washington was contemplating going anywhere.
One thing I sincerely believe is that it didn't matter where they were, they weren't interested in taking McCarthy, Penix, or Maye. So maybe if they're at 6, they get cute and trade back far enough so that the Rams jump them and take Nix - because at that point, the Falcons would not yet have done whatever it was that they ended up doing, sending the QB-needy teams into a panic. Who knows?
I wasn't excited about Nix before the draft, to be honest. The reason for my bullishness now is that in any scenario, our immediate future is going to be tied to Sean Payton. It doesn't matter if we like that or don't like it. It's just reality. And I feel that Payton's enthusiasm about Nix was genuine. So, Payton having the guy he wants eliminates a giant hurdle (or excuse, depending on your perspective) with shortening the path to being competitive again. [Reply]
