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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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DJ's left nut 04:42 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo:
Ann Richards made sure Baylor was in the Big 12...it is her Alma Mater...Big 8 schools wanted Houston, but Ann wouldn't let it happen without Baylor...Tech was always involved.
(I know this already; you'll need to read back a little bit to see where I'm going with this one...)
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eazyb81 04:42 PM 10-25-2011

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kstater 04:45 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Bullshit. We've won the "Get the Fuck Out From Under Texas' Thumb" race.
Don't forget they tied for the Big 12 North 3 times in 15 years.
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notorious 05:02 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by UCF Knight:
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious View Post
Find a Stewardess to finish.


Here ya go.

Jerk.
:-)


Steward -ESS.
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KC native 05:04 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by notorious:
I was referring to the "We would rather lose 4 in a tough conference then have a shot at the BCS in an average conference" take. That is the going theme for Mizzou fans in the discussion.
Yea. Unlike MU, TCU will have a better shot at the BCS on a consistent basis if we keep doing what we've been doing. The Big 12 isn't as tough as the SEC. Mizzou, in all likelihood, is probably going to consistently be around the bottom of the league.

I personally would rather see the rivalries in the Big 12 and take more losses but have more enjoyable games. I can't wait for the first time we beat UT in Austin. The arrogance of UT fans is fucking annoying as shit.
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mikeyis4dcats. 05:14 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Stewie:
American Eagle is a partner to AA. Separate companies, separate liabilities.
but AE is is comprised of 2 wholly owned subsidiaries that fly the routes?
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mikeyis4dcats. 05:18 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by HemiEd:
That is awesome, for sure. Are they being subsidized by the community? Wichita was doing that for a while, but they must have stopped.
I don't believe so. They are no longer EAS. I think they did get a federal grant for marketing and strategic implementation costs.
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kchero 05:48 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
So the guy from the state of 2 million people and no major pro sports teams is calling a state with 6,000,000 people and 5 teams hillbilly? Sounds right. It's amazing that every resident in Kansas seems to be magnetically attracted to the state of Missouri. I mean, your largest population base is a suburb of a Missouri city yet the irony of your comments is completely lost on you.
No sh*t :-)
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KChiefs1 05:50 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Can't wait until the Big Texas Bevo conference adds BYU & Louisville! That would be some conference footprint!
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Al Bundy 06:06 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo:
Ann Richards made sure Baylor was in the Big 12...it is her Alma Mater...Big 8 schools wanted Houston, but Ann wouldn't let it happen without Baylor...Tech was always involved.
I addressed Stewie about his dipshittery as well.
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DaKCMan AP 06:45 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Stewie:
Sorry that you spent so much time on my posts. MU belongs in the hillbilly conference. It's been quite apparent that when the Big 10 snubbed MU and Texas was a big bully that the tiggers would tuck tail and run. Now you can get a major in whittlin' and rockin'!
Originally Posted by Stewie:
One hillbilly team is acceptable. Half the league? Not so much.
JFC you are one dumb motherfucker.

USNews 2011 college rankings:

Vanderbilt 17
Texas 45
Florida 58
Texas A&M 58
Georgia 62
Alabama 75
Baylor 75
Auburn 82
Missouri 90
Iowa State 97
TCU 97

Tennessee 101
Kansas 101
Oklahoma 101

South Carolina 111
Kentucky 124
Louisiana State 128
Arkansas 132
Oklahoma State 132
Kansas State 143

Mississippi 143
Mississippi State 157
Texas Tech 160
West Virginia 164


Top-100:
SEC 7
Big XII 4

AAU:
SEC 4
Big XII 3

Average:
SEC 95
Big XII 101
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kchero 06:48 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
JFC you are one dumb mother****er.

USNews 2011 college rankings:

Vanderbilt 17
Texas 45
Florida 58
Texas A&M 58
Georgia 62
Alabama 75
Baylor 75
Auburn 82
Missouri 90
Iowa State 97
TCU 97

Tennessee 101
Kansas 101
Oklahoma 101

South Carolina 111
Kentucky 124
Louisiana State 128
Arkansas 132
Oklahoma State 132
Kansas State 143

Mississippi 143
Mississippi State 157
Texas Tech 160
West Virginia 164


Top-100:
SEC 7
Big XII 4

AAU:
SEC 4
Big XII 3

Average:
SEC 95
Big XII 101
Nice
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mikeyis4dcats. 06:53 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP:
JFC you are one dumb mother****er.

USNews 2011 college rankings:

Vanderbilt 17
Texas 45
Florida 58
Texas A&M 58
Georgia 62
Alabama 75
Baylor 75
Auburn 82
Missouri 90
Iowa State 97
TCU 97

Tennessee 101
Kansas 101
Oklahoma 101

South Carolina 111
Kentucky 124
Louisiana State 128
Arkansas 132
Oklahoma State 132
Kansas State 143

Mississippi 143
Mississippi State 157
Texas Tech 160
West Virginia 164


Top-100:
SEC 7
Big XII 4

AAU:
SEC 4
Big XII 3

Average:
SEC 95
Big XII 101
so your point is they're smart hillbillies?
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DaKCMan AP 07:11 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
so your point is they're smart hillbillies?
No, West Virginians are not smart hillbillies.
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Reerun_KC 07:15 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by UCF Knight:
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious View Post
Find a Stewardess to finish.


Here ya go.
Now if I had one of those on my flight, how would I ever get you out of our airplane?
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