Originally Posted by displacedinMN:
down 600 ....thanks Joe
I get what you are trying to do here (again) but it's just not interesting to anybody, save a few who think as you do. Beyond that, it has no place here and literally everyone else has been able to refrain from your behavior. [Reply]
Also, I bought AMC premarket last week for $850 and made $1k before my balls tucked inside my body and I sold. Appears to be a good choice so far. It's straight gambling at this point but it was kind of fun. [Reply]
So my kids (3 and 7) are getting some reasonable amounts of cash built up in their savings accounts. Not huge money, but I'm a total chode and haven't bought them any toys with a single cent that anyone has given them for baptism, birthday, Christmas, whatever.
So it's currently in a savings account earning dickall. I'm fairly strong in getting it into some kind of investment account, question is to what?
I know the trendy thing to do is a 529 plan, but there is a real discussion to be had about the future of college and my kids opportunities there. Unless something changes, probably structurally, I think there are very real chances my kids won't go. As a guy with a graduate degree, I hope they do, but it isn't in their best interest to go blow 100K on something they're not going to get a return on. Nonetheless, some flexibility might be a little better.
A standard investment account might be prudent, and probably what's going to happen, but if they indeed use it for college, paying, you know...TAX when they're in their second semester isn't appealing.
I tossed it to the wife that maybe we should start a Roth for the kids, even if they don't put any more in it until after college, they should have serious gains and a hell of a head start. She wasn't thrilled about the idea, thinking they couldn't get it out if they needed it. After 5 years they should be able to borrow the basis. Plus, I think there is some value in the fact there are barriers to exit. If my kids suck (hey, my sister exists), and I can't pass on anything, they'll still have something come retirement.
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
So my kids (3 and 7) are getting some reasonable amounts of cash built up in their savings accounts. Not huge money, but I'm a total chode and haven't bought them any toys with a single cent that anyone has given them for baptism, birthday, Christmas, whatever.
So it's currently in a savings account earning dickall. I'm fairly strong in getting it into some kind of investment account, question is to what?
I know the trendy thing to do is a 529 plan, but there is a real discussion to be had about the future of college and my kids opportunities there. Unless something changes, probably structurally, I think there are very real chances my kids won't go. As a guy with a graduate degree, I hope they do, but it isn't in their best interest to go blow 100K on something they're not going to get a return on. Nonetheless, some flexibility might be a little better.
A standard investment account might be prudent, and probably what's going to happen, but if they indeed use it for college, paying, you know...TAX when they're in their second semester isn't appealing.
I tossed it to the wife that maybe we should start a Roth for the kids, even if they don't put any more in it until after college, they should have serious gains and a hell of a head start. She wasn't thrilled about the idea, thinking they couldn't get it out if they needed it. After 5 years they should be able to borrow the basis. Plus, I think there is some value in the fact there are barriers to exit. If my kids suck (hey, my sister exists), and I can't pass on anything, they'll still have something come retirement.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
It looks like Kansas' 529 plan may have limited uses, but you can start a 529 plan in Colorado's CollegeInvest program even if you don't live here, and it can be used for all sorts of skill training other than college. Per Colorado's site:
Our savings plans aren’t limited to just colleges or universities or graduate programs. Particularly in these times.
Your CollegeInvest account can be used at community colleges or trade schools, two-year nursing or medical technician programs, or a two-year online program on Entrepreneurship and Small Business Management. Even qualified special interest programs such as art schools, hair stylist and barber schools, chef or culinary schools, master plumber programs, and more.
How about a marine biology program in the Caribbean? Or a PGA qualifying school in Florida or Arizona?
Did we get your attention?
You don’t have to live in Colorado to open a CollegeInvest account. Nor does your child or student have to go to school in Colorado. Your savings can be used at an eligible school anywhere in country, and even some internationally.
“Eligible” means that the school participates in the federal loan program.
However, I don't know if you would reap state tax advantages or not. They talk on the site about saving on Colorado state taxes, but don't mention what happens if you don't file your state taxes in Colorado. You'd have to check on that.
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Great stuff. Thanks Rain.
I could be wrong, but I THINK that's true of 529s broadly, so dig into Kansas's program as well. If so, you'll almost certainly be better off taking advantage of the state tax savings. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
So my kids (3 and 7) are getting some reasonable amounts of cash built up in their savings accounts.
I tossed it to the wife that maybe we should start a Roth for the kids, even if they don't put any more in it until after college, they should have serious gains and a hell of a head start. She wasn't thrilled about the idea, thinking they couldn't get it out if they needed it. After 5 years they should be able to borrow the basis. Plus, I think there is some value in the fact there are barriers to exit. If my kids suck (hey, my sister exists), and I can't pass on anything, they'll still have something come retirement.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
You cannot start a Roth for your kids unless they have earned employment income, so that’s out at their age. 529 plans are intriguing assuming they are utilized for educational purposes. I like the idea of doing a taxable brokerage account for them and allowing them the flexibility to work with you in selecting their investments, etc. You can use that as a good way to educate them on selecting tax favorable investments since it is a brokerage account as opposed to a Roth or Traditional IRA or 529 plan. [Reply]