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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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kchero 01:24 PM 10-25-2011
I do not see this as an upgrade. If WV was an upgrade over Mizzou they would have not been kicked to the curb by the SEC.
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kstater 01:24 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
I asked the same question earlier today - someone responded with the answer that when ND is forced into a conference, the one that has their other sports will have a leg up on everyone else.
Plus the 4-6 footbal games they'll play against league teams.
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bevischief 01:24 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Hopefully KU is smart and uses the money they get from the MU exit fees to buy out Gills contract.
Good luck with that thought...
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eazyb81 01:24 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Butthurt.
Ballsack.
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Mr. Plow 01:24 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Sources say the money is already in the banking collecting interest. Zenger gets the authority to fire folks on Jan. 1.
Awesome.
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Mr. Plow 01:25 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by bevischief:
Good luck with that thought...
A guy can dream....we'll find out after the first of the year.
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Al Bundy 01:26 PM 10-25-2011
So what happens if MU decides to stick around now?
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eazyb81 01:26 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by the Talking Can:
apropos of nothing, 810 reporting that Kemper arena is going to be blown up
First casualty of Mizzou leaving the Big 12.
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kstater 01:27 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by UCF Knight:
So what happens if MU decides to stick around now?
Combination of backtracking and hilarity.
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eazyb81 01:28 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Hardly.

You guys got a solid program. Many of you think they're an upgrade over Mizzou.

I personally don't give a large rats ass one way or the other, so I'm simply acknowledging that it's not worth the argument. You fellas believe you've upgraded, so it's a win/win for all involved. Fantastic.

As previously stated - congrats.

Now if you need me, I'll be packing my shit for a better neighborhood.
Time to take the fine china out of its box from the basement. The poor people are finally gone!
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Saulbadguy 01:29 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Seriously? This is a pretty dumb statement coming from you.

Who in the Big East matched UT or OU? Who in the Big East matched Tech, A&M, and/or OSU at various points over the last few years?

Hell, Nebraska was down by their standards and would have bentover the Big East conference with Bill f'n Callahan.

You're trying way too hard.
No one, but that's not the point. Mizzou has played for the Big XII title twice. Neither was competitive. Hell, in 2007, arguably Mizzou's best year in the last 40 years, OU went on to lose to West Virginia in the Fiesta Bowl. Badly.

Yeah, Mizzou would have been more competitive in the Big East - but not by leaps and bounds. They weren't that competitive in the Big XII.
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Mr. Laz 01:29 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by UCF Knight:
So what happens if MU decides to stick around now?
Then WV is definitely an upgrade over A&M imo

I imagine the Big12 really starts looking to get another team to make 12 too.
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eazyb81 01:29 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by UCF Knight:
So what happens if MU decides to stick around now?
KU/KSU fans:


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Saulbadguy 01:30 PM 10-25-2011
Originally Posted by UCF Knight:
So what happens if MU decides to stick around now?
I'd rather not consider that scenario.
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Mr. Plow 01:30 PM 10-25-2011
At least we won't have to miss the first part of the KU Big Monday games when the Big East implodes.
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