Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Florio is on it:
Issue with key holding penalty is consistency, not accuracy, of such calls
Spoiler!
The question of whether Jets cornerback Sauce Gardner technically held Chiefs receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling to wipe out a key interception during the fourth quarter of Sunday night’s game isn’t the issue. The question is one of consistency.
Consistency from game to game. Consistency within a given game.
How often do we see contact worse than that not get called in crunch time? In Week 2, there was a mugging in the end zone on a two-point conversion attempt that would have tied the game between Denver and Washington. No call. Two weeks ago, the Steelers got away with an apparent pass interference on the last gasp by the Browns.
It’s not a new dynamic. The whistle is swallowed and the flag is buried when the game is on the line. Each official becomes less inclined to be the one to call the foul. While it takes courage to do it, it takes even more guts to disrupt the expectations that arise when the culture evolves to the point of “let them play” when the play matter most.
That’s not to excuse it. The point is that’s the way it is, and last night’s call represents a sudden departure from it.
Also, the call didn’t fit with the flow of this specific game. As one source with knowledge of the situation explained it to PFT, both teams were getting away with worse than that, throughout the game.
Coaches just want the strike zone to stay the same. Ideally, from game to game. At a minimum, throughout a given game.
Last night, the call on Sauce created a sense of very real frustration among Jets fans. For folks who were just watching the game and looking to be entertained, there’s a sense that the call robbed us of a collective moment. An opportunity to witness whether Jets quarterback Zach Wilson could deliver in the clutch, finishing off a dramatic comeback with a win over the defending Super Bowl champions.
And, given the extent to which the NFL is leaning into the Taylor Swift experience, the call is inviting plausible speculation that the league has developed a specific affinity for the team featuring the player for whom Swift has developed a specific affinity. Even if there’s nothing to it, calls like the one made last night will make people of otherwise sound mind believe there is.
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
Yea, that horse collar, incorrect safety call, Danna getting his helmet ripped off on the Jets TD, and the Jets online having a flawless night of non-holding really helped the Chiefs.
Those don't count though because............... [Reply]
Originally Posted by :
For folks who were just watching the game and looking to be entertained, there’s a sense that the call robbed us of a collective moment. An opportunity to witness whether Jets quarterback Zach Wilson could deliver in the clutch, finishing off a dramatic comeback with a win over the defending Super Bowl champions.
Yeah, there's also an opportunity to witness monkeys flying out my asshole.
NFL better not rob us of that by throwing a flag!!!! [Reply]
I can't say it wasn't the right call, so I'm going to make up some bullshit narrative.
It's all B.S. When Taylor was targeted by the league for where he lined up there was silence, despite other players doing the exact same thing. They ignore the facemask safety that wasn't, the horse collar tackle that wasn't a penalty despite it being called, nor the hands to the face of Danna that wasn't called.
Somehow though KC gets all the calls, and when they don't it's because the refs are calling it fair and square, or just no one notices the missed calls. It's a product of being good I guess. The irony is that Florio is pretty silent on NE stuff when they were busted multiple times for cheating.
I do find it funny that a Broncos troll on here wants to imply cheating when his team's two SBs under Elway were achieved through cheating and not the implied cheating. They were busted by the league for it and I believe the Manning SB is a product of HGH (which of course is cheating as well). There is no way Manning went from as good as he was to as bad as he was that fast without his prior performance being the product of his "wife's" HGH. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
People are just noticing how frequently KC benefits from referee favoritism. They could easily call 4x as many penalties on Donovan Smith and Taylor than they do. The majority of KC’s big plays benefited from egregious non-calls, including Mahomes’ 3rd and 22 scramble.
They literally called a phantom hold negating a big play right before that legitimate defensive holding call. Like usual, you are letting your jealousy of KC take over.
Also, Denver only won Superfarce 50 due to phantom illegal contacts in Arrowhead giving them Pile Hig advantage, so you can shut up regardless [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Florio is on it:
Issue with key holding penalty is consistency, not accuracy, of such calls
Spoiler!
The question of whether Jets cornerback Sauce Gardner technically held Chiefs receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling to wipe out a key interception during the fourth quarter of Sunday night’s game isn’t the issue. The question is one of consistency.
Consistency from game to game. Consistency within a given game.
How often do we see contact worse than that not get called in crunch time? In Week 2, there was a mugging in the end zone on a two-point conversion attempt that would have tied the game between Denver and Washington. No call. Two weeks ago, the Steelers got away with an apparent pass interference on the last gasp by the Browns.
It’s not a new dynamic. The whistle is swallowed and the flag is buried when the game is on the line. Each official becomes less inclined to be the one to call the foul. While it takes courage to do it, it takes even more guts to disrupt the expectations that arise when the culture evolves to the point of “let them play” when the play matter most.
That’s not to excuse it. The point is that’s the way it is, and last night’s call represents a sudden departure from it.
Also, the call didn’t fit with the flow of this specific game. As one source with knowledge of the situation explained it to PFT, both teams were getting away with worse than that, throughout the game.
Coaches just want the strike zone to stay the same. Ideally, from game to game. At a minimum, throughout a given game.
Last night, the call on Sauce created a sense of very real frustration among Jets fans. For folks who were just watching the game and looking to be entertained, there’s a sense that the call robbed us of a collective moment. An opportunity to witness whether Jets quarterback Zach Wilson could deliver in the clutch, finishing off a dramatic comeback with a win over the defending Super Bowl champions.
And, given the extent to which the NFL is leaning into the Taylor Swift experience, the call is inviting plausible speculation that the league has developed a specific affinity for the team featuring the player for whom Swift has developed a specific affinity. Even if there’s nothing to it, calls like the one made last night will make people of otherwise sound mind believe there is.
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother:
NFL officiating has ALWAYS been inconsistent. Have you ever watched a game the last few decades?
Nah he didn’t care when the Broncos were benefitting from shady calls. Running illegal pick plays for an entire season, zero drive stalling penalties so they have a historic offense. HGH. He did not mind at all. [Reply]
Denver committed close to 100 OPIs that year according to legit sources. Their entire offense was under 5 yard passes predicated on illegal screens [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother:
They literally called a phantom hold negating a big play right before that legitimate defensive holding call. Like usual, you are letting your jealousy of KC take over.
Also, Denver only won Superfarce 50 due to phantom illegal contacts in Arrowhead giving them Pile Hig advantage, so you can shut up regardless
Imagine Florio crying about consistency when, on the previous play, 1st and goal was turned into 3rd and 22 by a phantom holding call. :-)
That could be called on literally any play of any game in the NFL, and they chose to call it there. Plus, they called another devastating hold that threatened to kill the drive just before that.
Could there be anything less rewarding than being a Broncos fan/KC hater right now? :-) [Reply]
