Originally Posted by Gary Cooper:
Their defense has let them down each time in the playoffs.
That's true, but Josh and the Buffalo offense got away with a SHITLOAD of turnover worthy plays in the last two Playoff matchups with the Chiefs. I counted 4-5 of them in the game a year ago, plus another 7-8 turnover worthy plays in the game this year. It was ridiculous how lucky Buffalo was on a lot of those plays. Chiefs defense just not able to make them pay for the mistakes. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
That's true, but Josh and the Buffalo offense got away with a SHITLOAD of turnover worthy plays in the last two Playoff matchups with the Chiefs. I counted 4-5 of them in the game a year ago, plus another 7-8 turnover worthy plays in the game this year. It was ridiculous how lucky Buffalo was on a lot of those plays. Chiefs defense just not able to make them pay for the mistakes.
Yeah. Our defense doesn't force many turnovers though. Some teams have a knack for taking the ball away. We had that for instance in the 90's. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
You find a team like Atlanta who has major salary cap issues and has a significant investment in a left tackle, Jake Matthews, with a left handed QB.
That is a potential trade opportunity.
He's 33 years old.
He's the definition of a stop-gap. I'm not necessarily opposed, but if it takes a high pick it's not smart. And you're going to have to do this again next year or the year after-and '26 is when you can get out from under Taylor's deal.
So yeah, I mean, maybe, but he's not THAT expensive honestly, and with a young QB I'd think you would want that veteran presence. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
If the thoughts are that most NFL teams don't like the players as much at the top it makes it cheaper to deal up.
Part of why we were able to get Mahomes for a low trade up cost was a lot of the Dinosaurs thought the 2017 QB's didn't have any elite talent.
That of course was dead wrong.
Your logic is flawed.
If 'teams don't like the players at the top', then why do we want to throw half a draft worth of picks to get up there? Because if 'teams don't like the players at the top', then there isn't a sure-fire LT in that pool. If there was, nobody up there would let him get away. [Reply]
Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens
Garett Bolles, Denver Broncos
Cam Robinson, Minnesota Vikings
Walker Little, Jacksonville Jaguars
Tyron Smith, New York Jets
Alaric Jackson, Los Angeles Rams
Dan Moore Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers
Morgan Moses, New York Jets
Jedrick Wills Jr., Cleveland Browns
Justin Skule, Tampa Bay Buccaneers [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Well of course. I never said finding a trade partner was guaranteed. But if there is one, the Chiefs shouldn't be scared to do it.
DOES BRETT VEACH LOOK LIKE A BITCH?
-what?
I SAID, DOES BRETT VEACH LOOK LIKE A BITCH? SAY WHAT ONE MORE TIME MOTHERFUCKER. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
He's 33 years old.
He's the definition of a stop-gap. I'm not necessarily opposed, but if it takes a high pick it's not smart. And you're going to have to do this again next year or the year after-and '26 is when you can get out from under Taylor's deal.
So yeah, I mean, maybe, but he's not THAT expensive honestly, and with a young QB I'd think you would want that veteran presence.
It's always gonna be stop-gaps, until they get some luck with a younger guy like Kingsley. Would be amazing if Kingsley (or even Wanya) can make a big step forward in this offseason. [Reply]
It would take 31, 63, and 66 to get to pick 12. It would also require a team willing to move all the way back to the end of the first round. https://t.co/6HKInnxkgX
I promise you, not a single poster here on the board OR anyone in the Chiefs organization is unconcerned with the left tackle situation. Not a single person.
IF you don't follow the draft, and don't know what left tackles are IN this draft, don't spout a bunch of noise about trading whatever is necessary to go up and get THE GUY. The reality is, this is not THAT draft.
This team is going to have a lot of tough decisions this off-season, and there will be significant turnover. We're going to need those picks to fill a lot of holes.
Nobody trades great Left Tackles with prime years left. It's extremely rare, and only happens if they already have ONE, and they don't want to pay TWO. So, if this is what you want, Alaris Jackson is your man. Now, the resume is short, and there's a risk, but he did a nice job for the Rams this season. They've already got the other guy that was their plan A. Cam Robinson is Jawaan Taylor only not as good. I don't know about YOU, but I'm not crazy about that idea.
If you're talking about an over 30 guy hopefully with a little left in the tank, we're talking stop-gap. This is probably the most likely path, and that mix will probably include Humphries. You will probably be over-paying in most cases. This means saying goodbye to good younger players you'd like to keep. This opens more holes. Nonetheless, this is PROBABLY what we'll do. Stop-gap and hope Kingsley develops behind him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88: That’s the consequence of one of the positions they did go cheap at… LT.
The Chiefs center, RT, and LG have three of the highest salary cap #’s on the roster… while both of their LT’s to start the season are making less than their third string RB (Perine).
Except they didn't go cheap at LT. They tried signing Trent Williams but he wanted to go to SF.
They then pivoted to Brown Jr. who they tried to resign, but his pride got in the way and he signed with Cincy for less than what KC offered.
They moved on from him to Donovan Smith who was a stop gap and sadly the best option available.
This year they drafted a high upside guy in Round 2 who ended up being far more raw than anyone expected. Plus they brought in Humphries once he was medically cleared and he sadly did not pan out.
It's not like there is this glut of FA LTs out there that they passed on to save a buck or two. LT is the second hardest position to fill on offense outside of QB. It's even harder when you draft 28 or higher every year.
We are seeing the effects of why dynasties are so hard to build and maintain. Every team in this year's playoffs have benefitted from down years except KC.
Outside of tanking (which Mahomes will never do), this is going to be the lot of this team for many more years.
This means in order to maintain the dynasty they are going to have to be smart with FA signings as well as keeping as many picks as possible in order to draft as much talent as possible. That also means taking chances on raw, high upside guys like Kingsley and hoping they live up to it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Not that hard. If they trust their scouting then if they made that move, they'd have to believe that player can start for the next 10 years or so.
Every move they can do carries risk. This isn't the time to be risk averse and end up going into next year with a question mark. Whether it's signing a FA, finding a trade, or trading up for a draft pick, they need to go 100% at it.
If it means the rookie LT will have growing pains and at times make mistakes, fine. That will be the coaching staffs job to coach him up and Patrick to help him out when he can and not exacerbate those mistakes.