Some fun here. Edwards-Helaire rushed for 1,415 yards and 16 touchdowns as a junior .. all-purpose yards -- receiving (55 receptions, 453 yards) and kick returner (KEY) 10 returns, 214 yards pic.twitter.com/3Duq1jjy6J
Holy offense Bat Man. I love Clyde Edwards-Helaire. He is best Rb in the draft. Watkins and Hill deep. Kelce in the middle. And Edwards-Helaire underneath. Good Luck defenses.
Brett Veach told Andy Reid to watch some Clyde Edwards-Helaire film and told Reid you’ll see Brian Westbrook. Reid watched. Then got back to Veach and said he’s better than Westbrook.
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Yes but none of you people have bothered to read the new CBA.
If any first rounder reaches two Pro Bowls in his first three seasons, his 5th year option then equals the Franchise Tag number.
So if CEH lives up to his potential, he'll likely be with the Chiefs for only 4 years but the Chiefs should get a high Comp Pick in return.
RB is a TOUGH row to hoe in the FAC, though.
Henry, Chubb and Jacobs were probably the 3 most productive 'pure' runners in the NFL last year. Ingram will get love because of his offensive system, Mack and Mixon are strong players in their own right and Devin Singletary is gonna be real good.
There are 3 RBs in the pro bowl each year, right? You think in the next 4 years he will pass 5 of those guys twice? Write off next year because I'd be shocked if he's not in a fairly heavy rotation w/ Williams.
I mean, it's not impossible like it would be in the NFC w/ Saquon, Elliott and McCaffrey having that stuff on lock with Cook and Kamara in reserve, but man - it'll be awfully tough.
I'd be surprised if he made a single pro bowl over those 4 years, let alone 2. He just doesn't have time, opportunity or name recognition on his side. Unless he truly DOES become Kareem Hunt in 2021, it seems pretty unlikely. And if he does - well damn, I'd hate to lose that 5th year option in the process of winning 2 more SB rings...
Ultimately few guys are playing on the 5th year anymore anyway. I like to have it because it provides valuable leverage in extension discussions, but when extending a RB isn't a great idea anyway, that leverage matters less and less. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell:
So when do we stop with this?
Taylor is bigger, more powerful, gained far more NCAA yards, ran a far faster 40, scored far more TD;s.
So what are we going with?
Again - Taylor is a 1-cut guy.
He would almost certainly be a better player than CEH in a system where you played mostly conventional 11 personnel from under center (or with a FB).
But Taylor DOESN'T play a style that translates as well to a shotgun running game. To maximize Taylor here we'd have to modify some of our sets and in so doing, we WON'T be maximizing Mahomes, Hill, Kelce at Watkins anymore.
Meanwhile CEH, because of his style of running and his ability to read/setup gaps, can fit seamlessly into this particular system and we get an upgrade at running back while maintaining a system that maximizes the best player in football and an array of weapons.
I know it's a small deal in the grand scheme of things. But I can't hear the name Darwin Thompson without thinking about him trying to toss the ball away after recovering Sorensona strip vs houston.
Dudes a decent runner but not sure he was grasping the offense. Chiefs looked terrified about putting him in pass pro. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell:
No it's not, I look at that total package, Taylor is bigger, faster and more productive. Simply facts,
He's bigger, faster in a straight line, but not game breaking fast. Not elite fast. 4.4 fast. Not 4.28 fast. And he certainly doesn't play to his timed speed.
He's not quicker. He doesn't have the repertoire of moves CEH has. He doesn't have CEH's lateral agility, explosion or vision. CEH has shown more power in his game than Taylor has. And Taylor's production came in a lesser conference. Facts.
Oh, one more fact: CEH was drafted by the SB winning Chiefs, who liked him more than Taylor. Taylor isn't a day 1 pick. FACT. [Reply]
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Again - Taylor is a 1-cut guy.
He would almost certainly be a better player than CEH in a system where you played mostly conventional 11 personnel from under center (or with a FB).
But Taylor DOESN'T play a style that translates as well to a shotgun running game. To maximize Taylor here we'd have to modify some of our sets and in so doing, we WON'T be maximizing Mahomes, Hill, Kelce at Watkins anymore.
Meanwhile CEH, because of his style of running and his ability to read/setup gaps, can fit seamlessly into this particular system and we get an upgrade at running back while maintaining a system that maximizes the best player in football and an array of weapons.
This....doesn't seem difficult.
None of us with brains ever considered Taylor an option, it's why he wasn't discussed at all. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Again - Taylor is a 1-cut guy.
He would almost certainly be a better player than CEH in a system where you played mostly conventional 11 personnel from under center (or with a FB).
But Taylor DOESN'T play a style that translates as well to a shotgun running game. To maximize Taylor here we'd have to modify some of our sets and in so doing, we WON'T be maximizing Mahomes, Hill, Kelce at Watkins anymore.
Meanwhile CEH, because of his style of running and his ability to read/setup gaps, can fit seamlessly into this particular system and we get an upgrade at running back while maintaining a system that maximizes the best player in football and an array of weapons.
This....doesn't seem difficult.
Who said anything was difficult, the Chiefs want to use a first round pick on a RB to catch passes. I got it.
BUT.....Taylor will prove to be the better RB. [Reply]
