The other thread is a dumpster fire. I'm sure this will become one as well, but might as well start with a clean slate. I'll at least try to keep the OP updated with any notable news. Feel free to PM me if I miss anything good.
Arrest warrant and potential charges:
Spoiler!
BREAKING: An arrest warrant has been issued for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in connection to his involvement in a multi-vehicle crash on U.S. 75 in Dallas in late March, sources tell WFAA. https://t.co/XL3F7oCuW1
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Rice, 23, now faces eight charges in the case -- six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and one count of aggravated assault, according to the arrest warrant. All of the charges are felonies.
Collision involving injury carries a penalty of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for not more than five years or confinement in the county jail for not more than one year, a fine fine not to exceed $5,000 or both. Collision involving serious bodily injury -- a third-degree felony -- carries a punishment of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years. Aggravated assault -- a second-degree felony -- is punishable by two to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.
TL;DR, his concern was at a 2, and now it's a 4 (out of 10). Still probably not a huge deal, but there are some concerning possibilities. Overall, though, he thinks it all gets pled down to misdemeanors, he misses a couple of games, and he writes some massive checks to those he injured.
#Chiefs WR Rashee Rice and former SMU CB Theodore Knox are being sued for $1 million by two victims of the March 30 crash in Dallas, Texas, for severe injuries, including 'trauma to the brain, lacerations to the face requiring stitches, multiple contusions about the body,… pic.twitter.com/RlDvilVLi6
#Chiefs Patrick Mahomes said he's worked with Rashee Rice throughout the offseason and will continue to do so while the legal process plays out for Rice..
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I am simply responding to the video where you claimed he wasn't "remotely close" to killing anyone. Are you serious about that? Do you really think within 5-10 seconds of that interaction he couldn't have had a let's say 5-10% chance of killing someone versus the normal 0.001% chance of killing someone in the lane next to you?
We're talking about probabilities. Anyone can die in a traffic accident. He raised that possibility by leaps and bounds. I am well aware it didn't end up in a fatality, and I don't think he shouldn't be punished as if it did or almost did. But I also think it's absurd to ignore what happened.
If you drive drunk and no one dies, is it totally fine that you just drove drunk? Because kids will be kids and no one suffered the consequences even if you were pulled over by the police?
And if the drunk driver caused an accident, he better not leave the scene. Because leaving the scene is more egregious than driving drunk and causing the accident in the first place apparently. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
And if the drunk driver caused an accident, he better not leave the scene. Because leaving the scene is more egregious than driving drunk and causing the accident in the first place apparently.
I'm willing to presume beyond a reasonable doubt, that anyone that leaves the scene of an accident, outside of medical reasons, is driving under the influence.
Now if they have some really good evidence why it made sense, I'll listen, but... [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I am simply responding to the video where you claimed he wasn't "remotely close" to killing anyone. Are you serious about that? Do you really think within 5-10 seconds of that interaction he couldn't have had a let's say 5-10% chance of killing someone versus the normal 0.001% chance of killing someone in the lane next to you?
We're talking about probabilities. Anyone can die in a traffic accident. He raised that possibility by leaps and bounds. I am well aware it didn't end up in a fatality, and I don't think he shouldn't be punished as if it did or almost did. But I also think it's absurd to ignore what happened.
If you drive drunk and no one dies, is it totally fine that you just drove drunk? Because kids will be kids and no one suffered the consequences even if you were pulled over by the police?
None of this was fine, and most on here are very clear on that. He ****ed up, bad, period... He got lucky it wasn't worse. He was probably high when he crashed as well, totally unacceptable. He is paying a price with a hit to his pocket book and his reputation. If he wouldn't have left, he probably was looking at 1-2 games like Echols, but as I said in the other thread, he will probably get 3, maybe 4 because the league will view him leaving as a DUI. He was an idiot and it was a poor decision by a young man that either A) won't happen again, or B) he is a knuckle dragger and will continue this path and be cut at the next **** up. I'm hoping it's the former and he redeems himself and his character. [Reply]
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
None of this was fine, and most on here are very clear on that. He ****ed up, bad, period... He got lucky it wasn't worse. He was probably high when he crashed as well, totally unacceptable. He is paying a price with a hit to his pocket book and his reputation. If he wouldn't have left, he probably was looking at 1-2 games like Echols, but as I said in the other thread, he will probably get 3, maybe 4 because the league will view him leaving as a DUI. He was an idiot and it was a poor decision by a young man that either A) won't happen again, or B) he is a knuckle dragger and will continue this path and be cut at the next **** up. I'm hoping it's the former and he redeems himself and his character.
I completely agree. But he also could’ve easily killed someone with his actions. And it’s not any sort of stretch. We can admit that and still think he’s a Chief for multiple seasons going forward and can very, very, very easily redeem himself. That’s it.
We don’t need to sugarcoat the rest of it with excuses. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I completely agree. But he also could’ve easily killed someone with his actions. And it’s not any sort of stretch. We can admit that and still think he’s a Chief for multiple seasons going forward and can very, very, very easily redeem himself. That’s it.
We don’t need to sugarcoat the rest of it with excuses.
Again, if you read through the previous thread and this one, most, including myself, said he was extremely lucky he didn't kill someone else or himself. He's lost a lot $ and cred with Chiefs fans, but he could have lost everything. I just hope he get it... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Valiant:
Would insurance cover racing your rental against your own car?
Honestly. Him paying out 7 figures might benefit us. He needs to play outstanding to get paid by someone.
He wasn't charged with racing, and rarely will insurance win that fight. He most likely had to have a supplemental policy when you rent a car of that worth. That's probably the main reason he came out and said he was driving the car so soon, as the insurance on the rental would have only covered him as the driver. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I completely agree. But he also could’ve easily killed someone with his actions. And it’s not any sort of stretch. We can admit that and still think he’s a Chief for multiple seasons going forward and can very, very, very easily redeem himself. That’s it.
We don’t need to sugarcoat the rest of it with excuses.
You are a smart guy yet for some reason you keep comparing what could have happened in the absolute worst case to what actually did happen like they are similar.
The reality is we all live lives where outcomes mostly don’t come close to worst case scenario and we don’t spend all our time acting like it almost did.
You ever run a red light or stop sign? Sure you have. Your dumb inattentive ass could have killed someone! But you didn’t. You didn’t come close I’m sure.
It’s not sugar coating it’s reality. We don’t get judged on what “could “ have happened under different circumstances. [Reply]
Lol, nice to see some Chiefs fans are so happy to shit on and gloat about one of their own players’ problems. Nice fan base. Maybe if you really feel that way you should go find another team to ‘support’ in your own shit-ass fashion, bitches. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
You are a smart guy yet for some reason you keep comparing what could have happened in the absolute worst case to what actually did happen like they are similar.
The reality is we all live lives where outcomes mostly don’t come close to worst case scenario and we don’t spend all our time acting like it almost did.
You ever run a red light or stop sign? Sure you have. Your dumb inattentive ass could have killed someone! But you didn’t. You didn’t come close I’m sure.
It’s not sugar coating it’s reality. We don’t get judged on what “could “ have happened under different circumstances.
The reality? He had a major accident on a major interstate with cars around him in reasonably heavy traffic. He wasn’t just speeding without any consequence. It happened. It could’ve been much, much worse. You’re commenting that it wasn’t reasonably close to more? Sure, but relative to what?
You’re absolutely sugarcoating this.
If you were driving on the highway and you saw these two vehicles racing each other at 120mph, you would hate every ounce of their being and the risk they’ve put you through, no? I don’t even see how that could possibly be in question. Or would some of you feel better because they were only in their early 20s? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Lol, nice to see some Chiefs fans are so happy to shit on and gloat about one of their own players’ problems. Nice fan base. Maybe if you really feel that way you should go find another team to ‘support’ in your own shit-ass fashion, bitches.
It’s much more admirable to spend an entire season bitching about the shortcomings of those players on the field. You just might be more of a bitch in that context, fwiw. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
It’s much more admirable to spend an entire season bitching about the shortcomings of those players on the field. You just might be more of a bitch in that context, fwiw.
Lol, okay TC. I see you’re still butt-hurt about facts. Whatever. Btw, my post above wasn’t even directed at your posts. I’ve been mostly in agreement with them. I thought you were doing a good job of keeping things real without pissing on Rice, unlike some others around here.
