Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill was detained by police today entering the stadium for a driving violation, per his agent Drew Rosenhaus. But Rosenhaus said Hill will play today.
TH was a dismissive jerk at the outset.That typically never helps a situation. Who among us likes to be treated like that. Being nice to strangers is free and lubricates many interactions to your benefit including those with law enforcement.
The second officer absolutely appeared to unnecessarily escalate things. It is hard to do many times but cops have to deescalate situations not pour gasoline on them. They said TH was driving recklessly perhaps that had him worked up? Regardless of what it was the job is so hard but you have to remain in control of your emotions.
I’m long since tired of every situation like this needing to lead to a termination but 2024 is 2024. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Any time anything even remotely negative happens to a black person it's 100% proof of RACISM!
It's fucking tiresome.
Tyreek deserves some credit also for not really going there. His own head coach did in an apparent audition for an acting role, or something. But Hill has clearly chosen not to go that route (at least from what I've seen). Which is refreshing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by warpaint*:
TH was a dismissive jerk at the outset.That typically never helps a situation. Who among us likes to be treated like that. Being nice to strangers is free and lubricates many interactions to your benefit including those with law enforcement.
The second officer absolutely appeared to unnecessarily escalate things. It is hard to do many times but cops have to deescalate situations not pour gasoline on them. They said TH was driving recklessly perhaps that had him worked up? Regardless of what it was the job is so hard but you have to remain in control of your emotions.
I’m long since tired of every situation like this needing to lead to a termination but 2024 is 2024.
I've given this several minutes of deep deliberation and I come to a similar conclusion. The first opportunity to de-escalate the situation was on Tyreek, who chose to speed in a construction zone. The second opportunity to deescalate was by Tyreek when he was a complete jerk to the first officer that came to the window. The third opportunity to deescalate was for Tyreek to not roll his window up. The fourth opportunity to de-escalate was by the second police officer who really overreacted pulling him out of the car and insulting him when he was on the ground. The fifth opportunity to deescalate was for the second cop to not pull Tyreek down so hard when he was standing on the curb. Tyreek certainly has experience being arrested and should know how to handle the situation, but the police officer has more experience and more of a training background in de-escalation, so his transgressions count double. That means we have three demerits against tyreke, and four demerits against the second officer. Therefore, I assign 44% blame to Tyreke and 56% to the police officer, though I feel like this is letting Tyreek off really easy. Tyreek was the guy who kept choosing to escalate the situation. [Reply]
I don't think they beat the dog shit out of Tyreek. They weren't gentle with him, but he probably got hit harder on the field than what those dumb ass cops did to him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I've given this several minutes of deep deliberation and I come to a similar conclusion. The first opportunity to de-escalate the situation was on Tyreek, who chose to speed in a construction zone. The second opportunity to deescalate was by Tyreek when he was a complete jerk to the first officer that came to the window. The third opportunity to deescalate was for Tyreek to not roll his window up. The fourth opportunity to de-escalate was by the second police officer who really overreacted pulling him out of the car and insulting him when he was on the ground. The fifth opportunity to deescalate was for the second cop to not pull Tyreek down so hard when he was standing on the curb. Tyreek certainly has experience being arrested and should know how to handle the situation, but the police officer has more experience and more of a training background in de-escalation, so his transgressions count double. That means we have three demerits against tyreke, and four demerits against the second officer. Therefore, I assign 44% blame to Tyreke and 56% to the police officer, though I feel like this is letting Tyreek off really easy. Tyreek was the guy who kept choosing to escalate the situation.
I treat it more like a fight... who repeatedly threw punches first... Tyreek... after that I will allow the other fighter to go to town on him.
Or maybe a better analogy would be a woman repeatedly slapping some guy. You know the lady isn't going to do much to the guy but eventually I can't really fault the guy for popping her in the mouth once. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I've given this several minutes of deep deliberation and I come to a similar conclusion. The first opportunity to de-escalate the situation was on Tyreek, who chose to speed in a construction zone. The second opportunity to deescalate was by Tyreek when he was a complete jerk to the first officer that came to the window. The third opportunity to deescalate was for Tyreek to not roll his window up. The fourth opportunity to de-escalate was by the second police officer who really overreacted pulling him out of the car and insulting him when he was on the ground. The fifth opportunity to deescalate was for the second cop to not pull Tyreek down so hard when he was standing on the curb. Tyreek certainly has experience being arrested and should know how to handle the situation, but the police officer has more experience and more of a training background in de-escalation, so his transgressions count double. That means we have three demerits against tyreke, and four demerits against the second officer. Therefore, I assign 44% blame to Tyreke and 56% to the police officer, though I feel like this is letting Tyreek off really easy. Tyreek was the guy who kept choosing to escalate the situation.
Again everyone keeps saying it was a construction zone. The citation does not mention a construction zone. Just because you see work zone barrels in the video does not mean it's a construction zone.
I think everybody could agree that Hill was an asshole and could of handle the situation better. But Hill doesn't have the authority and power the police officers do. We should expect more from them than the citizen as it is literally their job.
The way the police officers handled the situation was dangerous and unprofessional. The fact that people make excuses for them is why there is so much distrust of the police no matter your race. [Reply]
