Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Payton plucked a discarded, second round QB with a busted shoulder off of the scrap heap and turned him into a HOF QB. Just wait and see what he does with Russell Wilson.
Scrap heap? Brees last 2 years in SD he averaged 26 TDs and 11 INTs a season. Brees only averaged 445 pass attempts in his starting time with the Dolts. He averaged 613 attempts a season with NO. His TD% with SD in his final 2 seasons was 5.7% and his TD% with NO was 5.5%. Those NO stats are only through 2018 cuz he was hurt a lot the last 2 years. Brees was coming into his own and becoming a force, but SD was stupid.
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Under Payton his yards per attempt, completion percentage and TD's per attempt all went up while his INT's per attempt went down.
That was with a TRUE HOF QB, not the donut muncher you have. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Under Payton his yards per attempt, completion percentage and TD's per attempt all went up while his INT's per attempt went down.
Yep. Minor improvements in each (partly due to style of play).
Payton got Brees at the age that QBs usually hit their prime. Peyton Manning made a similar jump in comp % in his 5th year. Did Dungy magically become a better QB coach that year? [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Andy Reid going to more championship games than Payton and as many SB's without a first ballot HOF QB is more impressive. He was also in a far more difficult division.
Andy with a first ballot HOF QB has blown Payton out of the water
Um, not sure that's true. The NFC-S has sent all of its members to the SB over the time that Payton coached NOR. The AFC-W hasn't. Also, no team in the NFC-S won the Division title two consecutive years. The NFC-S was a very competitive Division while Sean was coaching there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Most recent medical opinion from Dr. Davis Chao:
I'd prefer that he doesn't play TBH. You and the rest of the wishful thinkers are going to lose all hope after you witness the train rolling along without him. :-) [Reply]
Weird how only Brees' last two years in SD count when he was the starter for four. Realistically, he had two bad seasons, one good season and one okay season.
Russ' last season in Seattle (his "decline") was on par with Brees' best season in SD. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bet Dodgers:
Under Payton his yards per attempt, completion percentage and TD's per attempt all went up while his INT's per attempt went down.
You’re comparing a young HOF quarterback not quite in his prime, to a fat cringey quarterback well past his prime.
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Weird how only Brees' last two years in SD count when he was the starter for four. Realistically, he had two bad seasons, one good season and one okay season.
Russ' last season in Seattle (his "decline") was on par with Brees' best season in SD.
Yeah, I’m sure this is the year Russ changes his stripes and becomes a great quarterback. :-). [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Um, not sure that's true. The NFC-S has sent all of its members to the SB over the time that Payton coached NOR. The AFC-W hasn't. Also, no team in the NFC-S won the Division title two consecutive years. The NFC-S was a very competitive Division while Sean was coaching there.
Talking about the NFC East when Andy was in Philly. Giants 2 SB's, Cowboys only had 2 losing seasons in the time Andy was there and the Redskins had a few good years when Shanny was there [Reply]
