Originally Posted by DomCasual:
I get your point. But in fairness, those guys might be named Lombardi, Walsh, and, um, Shanahan compared to one Nathaniel Hackett. You have longevity going for you (I think the three you mentioned covered, what, nine years). But I can't remember a single season that compared to last year. I mean, just take how we performed on ALL THOSE national broadcasts. It was bad, man.
Dude we literally had fans rioting against the team and a player blow his head off in the parking lot in front the GM in 2012.
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
I think that was the one before, if I remember correctly.
You guys who didn't watch 17 games of that disaster just don't grasp the incompetence of Hackett and his staff. You think you do, but you don't. To completely get it, you have to have tortured yourself with 17 approximately 3-hour windows of total aggravation (15, actually, since he was put out of his misery after the 15th game); followed by who knows how long listening to sports talk and watching highlights; followed by an even larger amount of time laying in bed, wide awake, wondering if it was all a fever dream.
It was so bad that when Jerry Rosburg was given the euthanization duties for the last two games of the season, they gave him carte blanche to fire multiple members of the staff. There was no good reason for this, other than principle. "You don't get to finish when you have failed this spectacularly."
I'd love to know if there has been anything else quite like it in NFL history.
It wasn't Hackett it was Russ. Stop being a homer. So Hackett calls a play a guy is wide open over the middle. Because he's "Liiiiiimitttteeeed" in that regard, he naturally doesn't take it and the team loses out on points...and you blame the coach? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch:
True, but we did have a hearty laugh at the lowest lowlights of the whole ordeal. We might not have the whole experience of suffering throughout it but we caught glimpses peeking through the window.
And to be fair, that level of ineptness is outright comedy. At least you had that to look forward to.
The lowest had to be when their fans actually left before overtime. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother:
It wasn't Hackett it was Russ. Stop being a homer. So Hackett calls a play a guy is wide open over the middle. Because he's "Liiiiiimitttteeeed" in that regard, he naturally doesn't take it and the team loses out on points...and you blame the coach?
Russ is cooked, but Hackett was a spineless moron. He let Russ do whatever the fuck he wanted. So long as he got in his Hackett hugs it was totally fine for Russ to get preferential treatment.
It’s now easy for Payton to take away all of Russ’s toys because the team supports a totally new approach, but if he were the coach last year he would have told Russ to go fuck himself. The parking space, the office, the personal trainers in the building… all of it would have been stopped. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Russ is cooked, but Hackett was a spineless moron. He let Russ do whatever the fuck he wanted. So long as he got in his Hackett hugs it was totally fine for Russ to get preferential treatment.
It’s now easy for Payton to take away all of Russ’s toys because the team supports a totally new approach, but if he were the coach last year he would have told Russ to go fuck himself. The parking space, the office, the personal trainers in the building… all of it would have been stopped.
....and still win 5 games with how out of shape/unprepared captain Cook was for that season [Reply]
Yeah, Payton isn't exactly known for instilling discipline in his players or demanding accountability. Not sure where that came from. Hell, most of their star players were constantly involved in drama, to the detriment of the team. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He wouldn't have been out of shape if Payton was there last year. Bc Payton isn't a pussy and demanded he get fit.
Russ knows his job is on the line
Not trying to defend Hackett, but remember what Denver gave up for Wilson. He held all the cards. Payton (who may/may not enforce anything) is a proven HC with a SB ring. That carries more weight than being a guy Rodgers liked, especially considering they did not land Rodgers. [Reply]
Didn't New Orleans have a bottom tier, soft defense for most of his tenure? So soft that they resorted to bounties he turned a blind eye too...ya so tough and discipline they were. Finesse offense too... [Reply]
