Originally Posted by RunKC:
I think the only time I can remember Patrick Surtain’s name being called against us was his interception off Patrick that was ironically a short pass placed right in Tyreek’s hands and he fucked it up pretty much gifting an easy pick.
Aside from that he’s pretty much been non-existent
In 3 games against KC, he's intercepted Mahomes twice. Once was the Tyreek deflection you remember, the other was a Mahomes pass nearly in the dirt towards Skyy Moore. Originally ruled incomplete, it was overturned after review. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I think the only time I can remember Patrick Surtain’s name being called against us was his interception off Patrick that was ironically a short pass placed right in Tyreek’s hands and he ****ed it up pretty much gifting an easy pick.
Aside from that he’s pretty much been non-existent
I'm sure he's doing a decent job. It's just that if other DBs can be exploited more easily, then you exploit them. No good reason to test Surtain. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
"Team accomplishments" should not impact any player who has established greatness at the position and was considered consistently great from being enshrined in the PFHOF.
If you just stick with team accomplishments then that's how the Aikmans of the world get in.
And thankfully that's largely been the case with the voters, I find.
But hey... there are definitely a few borderline cases whose resumes have been furthered or carried along by the teams they played for. It IS a boost to the resume for certain players.
A few trolls were uttering Julian Edelman as a future HOFer in the media and everybody smacked that notion down hard, but unfortunately the damage has been done. I think something that wasn't even worth a thought has now entered into peoples' minds, and there are going to be some loonies out there serously pushing it. All in the name of "The story of the NFL..." which is the singlemost determining clause responsible for unmerited HOF inductees. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
And thankfully that's largely been the case with the voters, I find.
But hey... there are definitely a few borderline cases whose resumes have been furthered or carried along by the teams they played for. It IS a boost to the resume for certain players.
A few trolls were uttering Julian Edelman as a future HOFer in the media and everybody smacked that notion down hard, but unfortunately the damage has been done. I think something that wasn't even worth a thought has now entered into peoples' minds, and there are going to be some loonies out there serously pushing it. All in the name of "The story of the NFL..." which is the singlemost determining clause responsible for unmerited HOF inductees.
The NFL has always rewarded good players on great teams over great players on bad teams...
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
So far in his short stint in Denver, Mr Limited has studied with Peyton Manning and worked with General Paton. Next up, Sean Payton.
Will the third Payton be the charm?
So, their 2nd choice QB, will now be working woth their 3rd choice Head Coach. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by BEAVER:
It would be interesting to know how many current broncos players have ever beaten the Chiefs. It has to be close to zero. Maybe a few have with other teams.
