Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I don't think any team has the magical "find a LT" scouting trick.
The teams that are stacked on OL just take a lot of developmental guys and hit on a few guys who can play.
Of course not. But the same conviction they had when they traded up for Mahomes is the same one they should have now if there's an LT they like.
Again, I'm not acting like this is the only solution to the problem. Just saying that having to give up multiple picks shouldn't be what stops them from getting someone they believe can be the long term blindside protector for Mahomes. [Reply]
I thought it to myself pre-game last week - what the Eagles did in last year's offseason was very reminiscent of some of Veach's best work the past few years. Excellent underrated signings, and grand slam draft picks specifically in the secondary.
When a GM pulls that off and the roster already has the major building blocks in place to begin with, going to be incredibly tough to deny that team. And Philly will be right in the mix again next year with a legit shot to repeat because of it.
We can bemoan Clark all we want, we won't be back in the Super Bowl next year unless we have a great draft with some really solid role player signings. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Of course not. But the same conviction they had when they traded up for Mahomes is the same one they should have now if there's an LT they like.
Again, I'm not acting like this is the only solution to the problem. Just saying that having to give up multiple picks shouldn't be what stops them from getting someone they believe can be the long term blindside protector for Mahomes.
Yeah, if there is a guy that they think is plug and play at LT and they expect can play at a high level in the NFL go get them.
Draft picks don't mean much when you can't protect your 500 million dollar QB. [Reply]
Super Bowl winners haven't been nor will ever be bought at the top of free agency.
It's drafting well, paying your home run picks, and then supplementing with the Drue Tranquill's, Charles Omenihu's, Jerick McKinnon's of the league. The draft is the prerequisite though and thank goodness we have some better ammo this year in the meat of this class. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
If that one player is the player that solves the LT issues for the rest of Mahomes career, then yeah that's an easy sacrifice.
The chiefs have already spent a 1st round pick, 3rd round pick, and 2nd round pick on LTs the last few years that are either off the team already or are deemed unplayable. At some point they have to get a permanent solution and that will either be paying big bucks and/or picks for a free agent/trade or trading up for one. So regardless of how, if we want a permanent solution to the LT issue, it's going to take taking risks and just believing in your scouting and evaluation skills.
Who is that player then?
This isn't a great draft for tackles. And even if it was, you're making a Mahomes-like trade for one player. What if that player is Luke Joeckel instead of Eric Fisher?
There's a world of difference between a calculated risk and just being dumb.
If there was a Joe Alt in this draft, sure go get him. There really isn't this year and if there was, we'd have to give up our entire draft to get up high enough.
At this point it doesn't even matter if it's a good move or a bad move, its a non-starter. It's not going to happen. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Yeah, if there is a guy that they think is plug and play at LT and they expect can play at a high level in the NFL go get them.
Draft picks don't mean much when you can't protect your 500 million dollar QB.
Stop speaking in hypotheticals and generalities, though.
Who are you trading up to get? Who is that plug and play guy? [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Who is that player then?
This isn't a great draft for tackles. And even if it was, you're making a Mahomes-like trade for one player. What if that player is Luke Joeckel instead of Eric Fisher?
There's a world of difference between a calculated risk and just being dumb.
If there was a Joe Alt in this draft, sure go get him. There really isn't this year and if there was, we'd have to give up our entire draft to get up high enough.
At this point it doesn't even matter if it's a good move or a bad move, its a non-starter. It's not going to happen.
It's like people forget that the Jets used a top 15 pick on the OT from Penn State that was really well thought of..they didn't throw him into the fire letting him sit behind Smith and Moses and when he got in..he looked like liquified shit.
This isn't really a "plug and play" situation. [Reply]
I think the most realistic thing the Chiefs could do to improve their team at this point to hope they can convince Tyron Smith that at this stage of his career trying to win a SB matters and he'll sign a 1 year 10 million dollar deal. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It's really hard to hold a position based on nothing, isn't it?
I mean no disrespect but how can you say we should take these enormous risks when you don't even know who might be available?
Pretty easy to understand.
I said if the KC staff thinks there is a guy they love at LT who is plug and play (not Kingsley raw, they should know the difference) and can be a star LT go get them.
That is based on their opinion. My thoughts are irrelevant here.
Of course once things get boring and I miss football I will have a whole bunch of opinions. Some will be right and some will be wrong. But for now that's all I have for you. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Pretty easy to understand.
I said if the KC staff thinks there is a guy they love at LT who is plug and play (not Kingsley raw, they should know the difference) and can be a star LT go get them.
That is based on their opinion. My thoughts are irrelevant here.
Of course once things get boring and I miss football I will have a whole bunch of opinions. Some will be right and some will be wrong. But for now that's all I have for you.