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Nzoner's Game Room>Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes
Wallcrawler 09:14 AM 01-16-2020
This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.
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jettio 06:05 PM 09-28-2022
Jackson has earned a big deal. I agree with Ravens not to fully guarantee 4 years.

If Jackson is unwilling to accept something like Mahomes rolling next 2 years guaranteed, Ravens should just tag for 2 years and see what happens next.

I love that Jackson keeps working on his skills and makes the dumbasses that hate on him look like genuine fucking bozos that do not know shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League.
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Dawson 06:16 PM 09-28-2022
Jackson is pretty good but he's still not close to Mahomes. Honestly the Chiefs will win 11+ games every year for the next 10 years no matter who is on the team as long as 15 is the QB. Can't say that for anyone else.
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KChiefs1 06:58 PM 09-28-2022
Why the Ravens' Lamar Jackson is playing better than during his MVP season
Spoiler!


https://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-...ost/_/id/56259


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JohnnyHammersticks 07:02 PM 09-28-2022
Lotta hot takes in this thread
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Marcellus 07:16 PM 09-28-2022
Dude is flat out balling this season. No denying it.
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htismaqe 07:19 PM 09-28-2022
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Dude is flat out balling this season. No denying it.
Yep. He’s gonna get paid.
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Halfcan 07:42 PM 09-28-2022
3 game MVP!!
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KChiefs1 06:51 AM 09-29-2022
Lamar Jackson was named AFC Offensive Player of the Month.

His current rankings in the NFL:

1st in TD passes (10)
1st in passer rating (119)
5th in rushing (243)
1st in rushing average (9.35)


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Eleazar 07:11 AM 09-29-2022
He definitely seems to be playing better this year, though that doesn't make the thread title any less true
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synthesis2 07:24 AM 09-29-2022
I've only been watching football seriously since 35 years but here is my take on Lamar


Besides Barry Sanders he is the best RB I have ever seen with my own eyes. Forget the QB aspect and just talk about being a RB, second best I've seen in my life.

So if I had to rate him as a RB he is a A or A+

As a passer he is a B, people are sooooooo freaked out because of his RB ability they give him so much room to throw he makes quite a few of them. but he has lots of time because of the defense just trying to keep him in the pocket.

He has a strong arm, hits some nice deep shots and puts up some good numbers as a passer.

You put them together he is a very good QB, but comparing him to Mahomes or Montana etc from a Passer perspective etc is not even a level or two below. You would probably rate him as the 8-10 best QB for passing in the league BUT because is probably a top 10 Best RB all time in football its what makes him different.

Will it last? probably not, he will get nicked up more and more and in the next 2-5 years will be washed up but for now he is fun to watch.

Good QB, GREAT RB
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DJ's left nut 07:45 AM 09-29-2022
Originally Posted by jettio:
Jackson has earned a big deal. I agree with Ravens not to fully guarantee 4 years.

If Jackson is unwilling to accept something like Mahomes rolling next 2 years guaranteed, Ravens should just tag for 2 years and see what happens next.

I love that Jackson keeps working on his skills and makes the dumbasses that hate on him look like genuine fucking bozos that do not know shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League.
If Jackson is concerned with setting records and/or earning the most he can in what is very possibly going to be a shorter career than your usual superstar QB, he'd be nuts to even consider a deal like what Mahomes signed.

If he went to FA he'd probably be the top FA target in NFL history. The bidding war would be spectacular. And remember what a mediocre guy like Cousins was able to do when he hit the market unencumbered. Cousins has made $150 million in 5 years since he hit FA. And he just keep cashin' them checks.

Jackson has no business not demanding 4 fully guaranteed years. Hell, he should probably insist on 6.

Because SOMEONE will pay it. is he worth that? Is it a risk I'd take? No and No. But that's going to be the reality of the QB market.
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lcarus 07:50 AM 09-29-2022
Lamar is a great player but I've seen this movie before. He'll dominate the whole season and then in the playoffs he'll run into a defense that's good enough to take away what he does well, forces him to do things he doesn't do well, and he'll lose.
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htismaqe 07:52 AM 09-29-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
If Jackson is concerned with setting records and/or earning the most he can in what is very possibly going to be a shorter career than your usual superstar QB, he'd be nuts to even consider a deal like what Mahomes signed.

If he went to FA he'd probably be the top FA target in NFL history. The bidding war would be spectacular. And remember what a mediocre guy like Cousins was able to do when he hit the market unencumbered. Cousins has made $150 million in 5 years since he hit FA. And he just keep cashin' them checks.

Jackson has no business not demanding 4 fully guaranteed years. Hell, he should probably insist on 6.

Because SOMEONE will pay it. is he worth that? Is it a risk I'd take? No and No. But that's going to be the reality of the QB market.
Pretty much what I was going to say.
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RealSNR 07:54 AM 09-29-2022
Originally Posted by jettio:
Jackson has earned a big deal. I agree with Ravens not to fully guarantee 4 years.

If Jackson is unwilling to accept something like Mahomes rolling next 2 years guaranteed, Ravens should just tag for 2 years and see what happens next.

I love that Jackson keeps working on his skills and makes the dumbasses that hate on him look like genuine fucking bozos that do not know shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League.
I'm still going to call him a RB. Because it's funny.
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DRM08 08:48 AM 09-29-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
If Jackson is concerned with setting records and/or earning the most he can in what is very possibly going to be a shorter career than your usual superstar QB, he'd be nuts to even consider a deal like what Mahomes signed.

If he went to FA he'd probably be the top FA target in NFL history. The bidding war would be spectacular. And remember what a mediocre guy like Cousins was able to do when he hit the market unencumbered. Cousins has made $150 million in 5 years since he hit FA. And he just keep cashin' them checks.

Jackson has no business not demanding 4 fully guaranteed years. Hell, he should probably insist on 6.

Because SOMEONE will pay it. is he worth that? Is it a risk I'd take? No and No. But that's going to be the reality of the QB market.
I agree that he should demand as much guaranteed cash as possible. Will the Ravens cave or does he end up somewhere else? Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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