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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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Buehler445 04:42 PM 11-09-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Me also, i've moved a lot into the EV stocks. They started the day strong but then fizzled. And Netflix was a big loser for me today.
Netflix had a bad earnings call a week or so ago didnt they
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Hog's Gone Fishin 05:08 PM 11-09-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Netflix had a bad earnings call a week or so ago didnt they
Not sure about that. Todays tank was due to the vaccine that will turn everybody into zombies that are unable to watch TV.
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Buehler445 06:23 PM 11-09-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Not sure about that. Todays tank was due to the vaccine that will turn everybody into zombies that are unable to watch TV.
I had to look it up. Their earnings were off quite a bit.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inv...rnings-4772366
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HonestChieffan 07:06 PM 11-09-2020
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Feel like I need to buy an airline stock and just let it sit. Seems like a slam dunk that it will come back
Yes today happened. Should continue to regain for two to three years as regs and travel restrictions emerge
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TinyEvel 10:16 AM 11-11-2020
A personal thank you to whoever brought Plug Power to this thread. I bought some at $11.00 a couple months ago, it’s at $21 now
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chiefforlife 10:19 AM 11-11-2020
Anyone have an update on NKLA?

Wondering if it will come back after the CEO stepped down or is that the end for them...
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Hog's Gone Fishin 10:21 AM 11-11-2020
Originally Posted by TinyEvel:
A personal thank you to whoever brought Plug Power to this thread. I bought some at $11.00 a couple months ago, it’s at $21 now
Yep, I've gone heavy over the past few months into EV and EV charging. It's going to be huge over the next 5 years especially with dementia in the white house. He going to throw a bunch of government money that direction.
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lewdog 08:35 PM 11-11-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Yep, I've gone heavy over the past few months into EV and EV charging. It's going to be huge over the next 5 years especially with dementia in the white house. He going to throw a bunch of government money that direction.
Definitely time to look at different sector plays with dementia in office vs the past 4 years of cognitive dissonance in office.

Their is plenty of risk in two main areas that many are looking at, EV and pot. Both have too many companies vying for the same technology and space. Many of these smaller companies get bought out. That sounds great if you own the company doing the buying but that's not always the case. The debt laid out in acquiring these companies, especially in pot, comes with needing years of a successful business model to draw down that debt and turn a profitable business. I've owned CGC for years and they're a major player but with major troubles turning successful profit and paying down debt. You'd think legalizing weed would make their business boom but that's not always the case.
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ghak99 10:04 PM 11-11-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Definitely time to look at different sector plays with dementia in office vs the past 4 years of cognitive dissonance in office.

Their is plenty of risk in two main areas that many are looking at, EV and pot. Both have too many companies vying for the same technology and space. Many of these smaller companies get bought out. That sounds great if you own the company doing the buying but that's not always the case. The debt laid out in acquiring these companies, especially in pot, comes with needing years of a successful business model to draw down that debt and turn a profitable business. I've owned CGC for years and they're a major player but with major troubles turning successful profit and paying down debt. You'd think legalizing weed would make their business boom but that's not always the case.
Most people don't understand what happens when a niche product becomes an actual commodity. There is always a boom worth quickly mining, but then it's followed by a substantial shift to commodity margins as something like weed moves from medicinal to legal.

Just be glad actual farmers aren't growing the shit. It, and everything attached to it, would already be near break even margins and it'd become a near worthless investment overnight.
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Buehler445 10:30 PM 11-11-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Definitely time to look at different sector plays with dementia in office vs the past 4 years of cognitive dissonance in office.

Their is plenty of risk in two main areas that many are looking at, EV and pot. Both have too many companies vying for the same technology and space. Many of these smaller companies get bought out. That sounds great if you own the company doing the buying but that's not always the case. The debt laid out in acquiring these companies, especially in pot, comes with needing years of a successful business model to draw down that debt and turn a profitable business. I've owned CGC for years and they're a major player but with major troubles turning successful profit and paying down debt. You'd think legalizing weed would make their business boom but that's not always the case.
Yeah, it's tough to achieve economies of scale (with positive marginal profits) with a manufacturing process that is reliant on hand labor. Sure you can make incremental gains through seed supply, logistics, packaging, access to customers and best practices, but the rest of the ag industry did it through mechanization, and that doesn't appear to be in the cards for pot. Size doesn't necessarily equal improved margins without substantive production efficiencies.

Originally Posted by ghak99:
Most people don't understand what happens when a niche product becomes an actual commodity. There is always a boom worth quickly mining, but then it's followed by a substantial shift to commodity margins as something like weed moves from medicinal to legal.

Just be glad actual farmers aren't growing the shit. It, and everything attached to it, would already be near break even margins and it'd become a near worthless investment overnight.
Yeah, some guys are trying to get CBD operations up and going, but even at the miniscule acres that were applied, dudes are having trouble with huge wait times for payment, meaning they flooded the market.

I am wholly uninterested in anything manual labor. I can't find anybody to even do some basic labor and tractoring. Much less walk fields and do manual labor. Much less put together a crew to do anything at scale.

Especially in my part of the world, achieving a consistent product would be paramount. With the ridiculously harsh conditions we can encounter, it's going to have to work a lot of years before I'd put any real assets towards it.
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TinyEvel 10:41 PM 11-11-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Definitely time to look at different sector plays with dementia in office vs the past 4 years of cognitive dissonance in office.

Their is plenty of risk in two main areas that many are looking at, EV and pot. Both have too many companies vying for the same technology and space. Many of these smaller companies get bought out. That sounds great if you own the company doing the buying but that's not always the case. The debt laid out in acquiring these companies, especially in pot, comes with needing years of a successful business model to draw down that debt and turn a profitable business. I've owned CGC for years and they're a major player but with major troubles turning successful profit and paying down debt. You'd think legalizing weed would make their business boom but that's not always the case.
Yeah I own some Liberty Health Sciences (LHSIF) they run 26 dispensaries in Florida and are a seed to store highly-scientific grower. Their earnings report last week 6-month tracking year over year was 36MM vs. 16MM. Long hold for me
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Hog's Gone Fishin 06:09 PM 11-13-2020
This is Not political at all but gives a great breakdown on the future of taxes during the next four years.


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Halfcan 08:34 PM 11-13-2020
Hard to believe people voted for higher taxes. Dumbest shit I have ever seen.

Personal and corporate debt will be skyrocketing. That is why I am looking at Mid-cap financial services and banks that pay steady dividends. They have been doing great for me so far and another big day today.
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lewdog 09:20 PM 11-13-2020
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Hard to believe people voted for higher taxes. Dumbest shit I have ever seen.

Personal and corporate debt will be skyrocketing. That is why I am looking at Mid-cap financial services and banks that pay steady dividends. They have been doing great for me so far and another big day today.
Who knew so many people made over $400k/year?
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DaFace 09:30 PM 11-13-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Who knew so many people made over $400k/year?
What, you're not a millionaire?
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