Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Adam Teicher has been repeating a quote from Veach about the draft being the Chiefs’ free agency.
I think the Super Bowl outcome changes that strategy… especially at LT.
We’ll see about that. It’s 100% on Clark Hunt to allow Veach more aggressive strategy with the salary cap and cash spending. The Eagles outspent them by $36 million in the 2024 season. A year ago, the Niners outspent the Chiefs by $28 million even with Brock Purdy on a super cheap contract. I would say that type of money ($28-36 million) would drastically help the Left Tackle situation in Kansas City.
Other examples…
2024: Niners outspent KC by $40 million
2024: Cleveland outspent KC by $37MM
2024: Miami outspent KC by $25MM
2024: Jacksonville outspent KC by $24MM
2023: Cleveland outspent KC by $53MM
2023: Baltimore outspent KC by $52MM
2023: Buffalo outspent KC by $42MM
2023: Houston outspent KC by $42MM
2023: NY Jets outspent KC by $40MM
It’s absolutely hilarious that so many of these teams failed despite the big money approach. [Reply]
As of right now the Chiefs have 175 million dollars in 5 players for next years cap...so without using void years you are talking about a ton of restructuring to create space and you think they're gonna pay money for a LT...right... [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
We’ll see about that. It’s 100% on Clark Hunt to allow Veach more aggressive strategy with the salary cap and cash spending. The Eagles outspent them by $36 million in the 2024 season. A year ago, the Niners outspent the Chiefs by $28 million even with Brock Purdy on a super cheap contract. I would say that type of money ($28-36 million) would drastically help the Left Tackle situation in Kansas City.
Other examples…
2024: Niners outspent KC by $40 million
2024: Cleveland outspent KC by $37 million
2024: Miami outspent KC by $25 million
2024: Jacksonville outspent KC by $24 million
2023: Cleveland outspent KC by $53 million
2023: Baltimore outspent KC by $52 million
2023: Buffalo outspent KC by $42 million
2023: Houston outspent KC by $42 million
2023: NY Jets outspent KC by $40 million
It’s absolutely hilarious that so many of these teams failed despite the big money approach.
Clark is lowering Mahomes cap hits through restructuring with his own money every year.
The bottom line is always drafting and finding great players. Baun and Becton were amazing low cost value home runs. Quinyon and DeJean were the steals of the draft. That’s a major reason they won.
The Chiefs also never pick early like the Eagles. They got Jalen Carter and DeVonta Smith with top 10 picks [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They have holes at nearly every position group. This team has zero business trading the entire front half of the draft for one player.
I agree. You want to close our window, trade away our draft picks.
You first see how free agency plays out. Is there a stop gap option at LT. If so the draft gets really easy and exciting IMO. This is especially so if someone cuts a LT like Matthews in ATL or Armstead in MIA because those guys won't count against the compensatory formula. I'd be really aggressive if one of those guys is actually available.
If you can sign Bolton to a fair deal do it. You probably have to pick between guys like Reid and Wharton. Doubt you can keep them both. But again, I'm more willing to pay for young defensive guys to keep things going on that side of the ball, than offensive free agents. The only way to manage the cap is to pay to play on defense, and improve the offensive through the draft.
If you keep a dude like Wharton, maybe drafting a DT in the first round isn't so critical and it allows you to take whatever OT that falls, OR simply pick the best playmaker available. WR/RB/CB/DL. There is absolutely no way in hell I'm going to pop for a TE in the first three rounds of this draft. NOT HAPPENING. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Clark is lowering Mahomes cap hits through restructuring with his own money every year.
The bottom line is always drafting and finding great players. Baun and Becton were amazing low cost value home runs. Quinyon and DeJean were the steals of the draft. That’s a major reason they won.
The Chiefs also never pick early like the Eagles. They got Jalen Carter and DeVonta Smith with top 10 picks
Those are fine examples...but where we are going to lose our guard, they kept theirs, they paid both of their WR's where we chose not to do that..we draft CB's and move on from Sneed they draft CB's and kept Slay..and had the money to pay an elite RB in FA.
Just some minor examples of how their method nets more players. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
You are forgetting one important aspect of this: there are generally only 13-15 real first rd grades in a draft class. Who wants to trade back in this scenario?
Teams aren’t gonna want to trade down to 31 and pass up elite caliber talent. The Dolphins or Colts for example are not trading back with us for more picks when Tyler Warren is there for the taking
Well of course. I never said finding a trade partner was guaranteed. But if there is one, the Chiefs shouldn't be scared to do it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GordonGekko:
One can dream. Go for broke, get the LT fixed in the draft by a young stud, we have been to the AFC championship game time and again w/ many of our recent 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounders not on the field or seeing significant playing time (Skyy, FAU, Kingsley, etc.)
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Clark is lowering Mahomes cap hits through restructuring with his own money every year.
The bottom line is always drafting and finding great players. Baun and Becton were amazing low cost value home runs. Quinyon and DeJean were the steals of the draft. That’s a major reason they won.
The Chiefs also never pick early like the Eagles. They got Jalen Carter and DeVonta Smith with top 10 picks
The list I provided is cash spending. They’re getting smoked in the cash spending by other teams. I think it’s hilarious the Niners are spending so much money on a loaded roster with a rookie QB contract and they have nothing to show for it. Cleveland might be the funniest one of all. Enormous spending and zero results. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoover:
I agree. You want to close our window, trade away our draft picks.
You first see how free agency plays out. Is there a stop gap option at LT. If so the draft gets really easy and exciting IMO. This is especially so if someone cuts a LT like Matthews in ATL or Armstead in MIA because those guys won't count against the compensatory formula. I'd be really aggressive if one of those guys is actually available.
If you can sign Bolton to a fair deal do it. You probably have to pick between guys like Reid and Wharton. Doubt you can keep them both. But again, I'm more willing to pay for young defensive guys to keep things going on that side of the ball, than offensive free agents. The only way to manage the cap is to pay to play on defense, and improve the offensive through the draft.
If you keep a dude like Wharton, maybe drafting a DT in the first round isn't so critical and it allows you to take whatever OT that falls, OR simply pick the best playmaker available. WR/RB/CB/DL. There is absolutely no way in hell I'm going to pop for a TE in the first three rounds of this draft. NOT HAPPENING.
The window will close anyway. We have lost 1 HOF player when we traded Tyreek, Kelce is aging out and only Mahomes and Jones remain.
When Jones is done the window closes and we need to reload. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They have holes at nearly every position group. This team has zero business trading the entire front half of the draft for one player.
If that one player is the player that solves the LT issues for the rest of Mahomes career, then yeah that's an easy sacrifice.
The chiefs have already spent a 1st round pick, 3rd round pick, and 2nd round pick on LTs the last few years that are either off the team already or are deemed unplayable. At some point they have to get a permanent solution and that will either be paying big bucks and/or picks for a free agent/trade or trading up for one. So regardless of how, if we want a permanent solution to the LT issue, it's going to take taking risks and just believing in your scouting and evaluation skills. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Those are fine examples...but where we are going to lose our guard, they kept theirs, they paid both of their WR's where we chose not to do that..we draft CB's and move on from Sneed they draft CB's and kept Slay..and had the money to pay an elite RB in FA.
Just some minor examples of how their method nets more players.
Even still, they have to line up things like we do. Landon Dickerson and Devonta Smith just got paid and had a low first year cap hit. Slay is getting cut and Lane Johnson will retire in the next year or two before those guys see real money.
Clark is using this method on the most expensive player on the entire roster. We’ve also used restructuring methods with other guys too.
I’d like to see it done a little more but Bottomline the bill comes due and they are where they are with drafting primarily [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
If that one player is the player that solves the LT issues for the rest of Mahomes career, then yeah that's an easy sacrifice.
The chiefs have already spent a 1st round pick, 3rd round pick, and 2nd round pick on LTs the last few years that are either off the team already or are deemed unplayable. At some point they have to get a permanent solution and that will either be paying big bucks and/or picks for a free agent/trade or trading up for one. So regardless of how, if we want a permanent solution to the LT issue, it's going to take taking risks and just believing in your scouting and evaluation skills.
I don't think any team has the magical "find a LT" scouting trick.
The teams that are stacked on OL just take a lot of developmental guys and hit on a few guys who can play. [Reply]