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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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staylor26 12:48 PM 03-01-2023
It's pretty hilarious watching Payton and KnowMo pretend that Terry Bradshaw didn't already expose Payton's true feelings about Russ...

Sat with Terry Bradshaw for a bit. Interesting comments on Sean Payton, his co-worker for the past year at FOX. Said Payton didn't want to go to Arizona bc of the QB. Also said he didn't want to go to Denver bc of the QB! Ultimately he took that job in spite of Russ.��

— Tom Rock (@TomRock_Newsday) February 7, 2023

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htismaqe 12:52 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
It's pretty hilarious watching Payton and KnowMo pretend that Terry Bradshaw didn't already expose Payton's true feelings about Russ...

You forgot this:

:-)
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Sassy Squatch 12:54 PM 03-01-2023
Well, to be fair to Payton, he got a damn near 9 figure contract to fix Russ.
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RaidersOftheCellar 12:58 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
It's pretty hilarious watching Payton and KnowMo pretend that Terry Bradshaw didn't already expose Payton's true feelings about Russ...

You mean he didn't take the job to coach a future HOFer? :-)

Wilson's a moron for wanting out of Seattle. If he hadn't left, he'd actually have a shot at a (very undeserved) HOF bid. Fat chance now.
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MahomesMagic 01:16 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:


:-)

You think this is good news?


If Payton thinks Russ is Drew Brees 2.0 he's mad as a hatter.
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Megatron96 01:39 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
You think this is good news?


If Payton thinks Russ is Drew Brees 2.0 he's mad as a hatter.
Payton might think he can mold Russ into something like Brees, but there's no way he thinks Russ is Brees. He's always been a great QB evaluator, so he's always known that Brees was one of the best ever in terms of being on time, while Russ has never been very good in that respect. His inability to consistently dot targets over the middle speaks directly to that issue.

It's going to be interesting to see whether Payton can in fact make Russ a better pocket passer that can go through his reads and make decisions on time, or not. Because Payton's offensive philosophy is entirely based on timing and dotting receivers between the numbers, something Wilson has struggled with his entire career.
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MahomesMagic 01:41 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Payton might think he can mold Russ into something like Brees, but there's no way he thinks Russ is Brees. He's always been a great QB evaluator, so he's always known that Brees was one of the best ever in terms of being on time, while Russ has never been very good in that respect. His inability to consistently dot targets over the middle speaks directly to that issue.

It's going to be interesting to see whether Payton can in fact make Russ a better pocket passer that can go through his reads and make decisions on time, or not. Because Payton's offensive philosophy is entirely based on timing and dotting receivers between the numbers, something Wilson has struggled with his entire career.
Payton to me is like Kyle Shanahan. Offensive guru but they aren't running anything but their shit.

Broncos should have paid Steichen.
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RaidersOftheCellar 01:48 PM 03-01-2023
What are these common traits between Brees and Wilson?

I guess Brees is only an inch or two taller, so there's that...
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Garcia Bronco 01:53 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
You think this is good news?


If Payton thinks Russ is Drew Brees 2.0 he's mad as a hatter.
"I'll take the butcher's word for it."
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BEAVER 01:56 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Chad



:-)
Move to denver get a puffy coat. That is the law.
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FlaChief58 01:57 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by BEAVER:
Move to denver get a puffy coat. That is the law.
And a Subaru Outback
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Coochie liquor 02:00 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco:
"I'll take the butcher's word for it."
The butchers gonna get butchered, by the league assassin! We got the keys to ya crib, and you ain’t getting them back anytime soon! Enjoy mediocrity, it’s just getting started!
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BEAVER 02:09 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by FlaChief58:
And a Subaru Outback
Someone posted earlier that SP looks like a lesbian in this pic - so probably a Subaru Forester....
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Pablo 02:16 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
The butchers gonna get butchered, by the league assassin! We got the keys to ya crib, and you ain’t getting them back anytime soon! Enjoy mediocrity, it’s just getting started!
They’d love some mediocrity. That’s a pipe dream for that franchise at this point
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Megatron96 02:17 PM 03-01-2023
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Payton to me is like Kyle Shanahan. Offensive guru but they aren't running anything but their shit.

Broncos should have paid Steichen.
Nah, not really. I mean, I get where you could get that from, but Shanahan's overriding philosophy when it comes to QBs is to keep them on a leash; he doesn't want the QB to improv at all. Plus, Shanahan's offense is predicated on that run game. The passing attack is pretty much generated off of it.

Sean Payton is kind of the opposite. Oh, Sean wants to be able to run the ball, but he can operate his offense with a minimal amount of running. He never leaned into the run game the way Shanahan always has. And Payton's passing attack is more advanced than Shanahan's. Finally, Sean will give his QB opportunities to make bigger plays than what the original concept asks for.

Shanahan pretty much doesn't allow his QBs to do that sort of thing. He wants to dictate exactly when and where the QB will take a shot, otherwise he's not a fan of the QB taking those kinds of risks.
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