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Nzoner's Game Room>Unpopular Thought: Trade McDuffie
sedated 04:44 PM 02-13-2025
The Chiefs latest dynasty run was a direct product of the Tyreek trade. Now money is tight, draft resources are slim, and the young players from Veach's great recent drafts are getting to the age to be paid so will be leaving soon. And that's aside from the glaring need for a franchise LT.

Any chance we could get back what makes it worthwhile to give him up this offseason?
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Rausch 06:06 PM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by |Zach|:
I know the Superbowl sucked but people are overreacting.
That's all that's done here.
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chiefzilla1501 06:10 PM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by |Zach|:
I know the Superbowl sucked but people are overreacting.
I don’t think people are overreacting. I don’t see many people who think we need to blow everything up.

There are a few realities though.
We have a lot of starters who are free agents and now more than ever, we probably aren’t going to bring a lot of them back
We don’t have a lot of picks to fill those holes. And we can spend a little of cap but we’d prefer not to overdo it.
We have a huge situation at LT and seemingly few reasonable options to fix it

I don’t think anyone disagrees with any of that
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Red Dawg 06:15 PM 02-13-2025
No. He's a keeper and pay him guy. Qe face a too many good wrs to trade him.
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ThyKingdomCome15 06:18 PM 02-13-2025
It makes more sense to give McDuffie an extension than trade him.
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Jerm 06:27 PM 02-13-2025
Well if we’re gonna go batshit and have fun, I’ll throw my hat into the ring….Trent McDuffie for Jahmyr Gibbs, maybe each side works out pick swaps too or what ever.

Bailey for Portis part II lol….
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comochiefsfan 06:27 PM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
When I saw that live I was floored. Because Worthy had his guy beat, and Pat pulled it down to throw the short.

That's not good. It's not good at all.
Overcoaching at its finest.

2018-2020 Mahomes lets that rip without hesitation and ties the game.

Those kind of plays happen all the time with him nowadays. You can pull up All-22 footage from nearly every game the last two years and find examples of him doing that exact same thing.

I don’t know how this mentality shift happened with him but it needs to be unlearned.
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FloridaMan88 06:27 PM 02-13-2025
The same WTF reactions when Tyreek was initially traded.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 06:31 PM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I saw something Sunday that made me worried and I haven’t been able to stop thinking about it. It wasn’t sacks, OL play or defensive TD’s.

I saw Patrick Mahomes turn into Alex Smith in real time. That play where he held onto the ball with plenty of time in the pocket and checked down instead of throwing it deep to Worthy should worry everyone here. That’s extremely concerning. And no I don’t care about the bomb he had to Worthy later. It meant nothing. The game was over.

This staff has effectively taken the gunslinger out this kid and damaged his entire mentality. The last 2 years have done tremendous damage to Mahomes that needs to be fixed now or it could ruin him. He plays scared now.

LT is by far the 2nd most important position on a team, especially a team that is coached by Andy Reid.

So yes. As the post stated. IF Andy and Veach love a LT prospect I would do it. Happily. Twice over if it fixes this mess. This staff has made me very desperate.
Dude.

You don't need to mortgage the strongest resources the team has to get Mahomes to throw the ball deep.

Mahomes should just do that. Period.

Now please don't misunderstand, I didn't say "don't put resources into the OL". I'm saying that no matter how many resources, new weapons, new coaches you throw at Mahomes, the only thing thats truly going to get Mahomes out of "playing scared" is Mahomes.

It's primarily his responsibility to figure that out.
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FloridaMan88 06:32 PM 02-13-2025
Hard to throw the deep ball when a pass rusher is abusing your LT and in your face every play.
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TwistedChief 06:33 PM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
The same WTF reactions when Tyreek was initially traded.
McDuffie has 2 more years under team control (pre-tag) at favorable costs and isn’t threatening sitting out if he doesn’t get a contract paying him at the top of his position group which was getting out of kilter to begin with.

If you ignore those major differences, then yes, the exact same reactions.
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FloridaMan88 06:36 PM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
McDuffie has 2 more years under team control (pre-tag) at favorable costs and isn’t threatening sitting out if he doesn’t get a contract paying him at the top of his position group which was getting out of kilter to begin with.

If you ignore those major differences, then yes, the exact same reactions.
Revisionist history to suggest that most people at the time thought that Tyreek was a cornerstone piece who was untradeable.
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dlphg9 06:36 PM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by RunKC:
If you told me I could trade 31, Trent McDuffie and 66 to move into the top 15 for a LT that we knew Andy and Veach loved, I’d do it in a heartbeat.
Jesus fucking Christ. No way. This is stupider than a pile of BWillie.
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sedated 06:37 PM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
The same WTF reactions when Tyreek was initially traded.
This.

“We won 2 Super Bowls by trading a star, but it would be unfathomable to trade this star”
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TEX 06:40 PM 02-13-2025
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
The same WTF reactions when Tyreek was initially traded.
Nah, McDuffie is under team control still. There's a big difference in the two situations.
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Titty Meat 06:44 PM 02-13-2025
CP overrates corners thwy wanted to keep Smeed over Jones
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