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Bearcat 08:14 PM 01-26-2021
2021:
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Fallacy: Big underdogs willing themselves to victory in the playoffs.
Possible Narrative: The underdog has nothing to lose! They'll B-E aggressive!
The Truth: Mahomes has only ever lost to Brady and Burrow in the playoffs, and two of those games went to OT. Stop worrying about every brokedick quarterback, every run-first team, every "tHeY'rE cOnFiDeNt AnD nOt InTimIdAtEd!!" team.
Examples: Being fearful of the Browns, Jags, the Titans FFS.

Fallacy: Paying a franchise QB handcuffs your team towards mediocrity (or at least fewer Super Bowls)
Possible Narrative: Rebuild year, reload year, the imminent demise of the Kansas City Chiefs, and the general "complete team vs quarterback".
The Truth: The quarterback position is pretty important. It's so important, in fact, you can get away with having an average or below average defense, a mediocre run game, unproven receivers, and so on... even to the extent that a one-legged franchise QB is better than most NFL teams. Obviously, the rest of the team can't suck ass and there's always a fine line between winning and losing in the biggest games of the year, where those other pieces matter the most, but you wouldn't be in that position if it weren't for paying the man.

Possible Narrative: The Chiefs need to retain non-Mahomes guy or sign the best player at their position in free agency.
The Truth: A franchise QB makes up for lesser talent elsewhere on the roster, and having the top QB in the league is a much larger gap than "only" having a top 15 guy at another position.
Examples: Tyreek, Hopkins, needing the best LT ever, etc.

Fallacy: The NFL is out to fuck the Chiefs.
Possible Narrative: Every loss is rigged for whatever reason is made up after they lose. Basically everything that happens is the NFL's way of figuring out how to fuck the Chiefs.
The Truth: Can we please just let this one fucking go? :-) The Chiefs won the AFCCG and SB on defensive penalties at the end of the game and still didn't have to play a road (or neutral site!) game. I think we're good.
Examples: Every single loss. Hamlin is the drama the NFL needs to push the Bills to the SB... oh, and the NFL wants to experiment with neutral sites forever after they force the Chiefs to play in Atlanta. Ratings. Fly over country. Vegas. New stadiums.

Fallacy: Regular season momentum exists.
Possible Narrative: Teams can't flip a switch. (this is from the 2021 version, but should be reiterated)
The Truth: A team with playoff experience and success can certainly play vanilla in the regular season and do things to avoid injury, etc; and then dig deep into the playbook while recklessly throwing themselves into defenders when the games really matter.
Examples: The Defending Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs
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Bearcat 11:16 AM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by scho63:
Enjoying this lovely Arizona weather? :-)
I heard parts of Phoenix got hail the other day, and then the far north side got snow. :-)

Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Good stuff.

Along with this narrative I would add that not all points scored are created equal. Garbage time points when a team is down 3 scores doesn't really mean anything yet they effect point differential and can skew perceptions.

Points given up when a team is behind, tied, or leading by 8 or less points is a bigger indicator of how effective your defense is.

For example KC's knack for giving up very few 2nd and 3rd quarter points is very large in their ability to consistently win. They have also been good in tight games in the 4th quarter when needed. Obviously the 1st Raiders game is the only exception and one outlier is not a pattern.
Good points, added this to the OP.

Originally Posted by O.city:
Only one I'd push back on is the "switch flipping".

The Chiefs are about the only damn football team I've seen be able to do it like they do.
I've seen a few people talk about it this week... after weeks of "but point differential!", Cowherd compared the Chiefs to an NBA dynasty and "shutting it down".

The only other example off the top of my head is the Patriots... they would generally keep their foot on the gas all season, but did win a Super Bowl or two after struggling in December.

99% of teams just can't rely on a last minute TD drive to beat the Falcons or the Raiders, etc.... the level of consistency and seemingly being able to do whatever the hell they want on offense when they're backed into a corner is truly remarkable.
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Seanathon 12:23 PM 01-28-2021
In Werner Herzog's Grizzly man, Werner explained that behind the eyes of a bear Timothy Treadwell saw human qualities like empathy, love, and compassion. Tim was the protagonist who was eventually eaten by a bear. Werner went on to say in stark contrast to Tim's perspective that he only saw the cold indifference of nature in the bear's eyes.

That is the Kansas City Chiefs right now; Absolute bone chilling indifference to what any other team presents or any person has to say. If the Chiefs are hungry they are going to eat. Its as sure as the sunrise and it does not care what you think of it.

Arrogance is no longer arrogance when it is true.
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eDave 01:13 AM 08-31-2021
I had my first Red Robin hamburger last week. Yea, it's a hamburger.

I did get some packets of their seasoning and now put that shit on everything. Especially grilled chickens.
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Bearcat 08:10 AM 08-31-2021
Originally Posted by eDave:
I had my first Red Robin hamburger last week. Yea, it's a hamburger.

I did get some packets of their seasoning and now put that shit on everything. Especially grilled chickens.



(I do need to try Red Robin though)
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scho63 10:03 AM 08-31-2021
Originally Posted by eDave:
I had my first Red Robin hamburger last week. Yea, it's a hamburger.

I did get some packets of their seasoning and now put that shit on everything. Especially grilled chickens.
What about their steak fries? They are my favorite - done extra crispy. :-)
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KChiefs1 12:58 PM 08-31-2021
Originally Posted by eDave:
I had my first Red Robin hamburger last week. Yea, it's a hamburger.

I did get some packets of their seasoning and now put that shit on everything. Especially grilled chickens.

Endless supply of French fries.
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Frazod 01:23 PM 08-31-2021
Originally Posted by eDave:
I had my first Red Robin hamburger last week. Yea, it's a hamburger.

I did get some packets of their seasoning and now put that shit on everything. Especially grilled chickens.
Red Robin is good. It's also ridiculously overpriced. But it's good.
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ptlyon 01:41 PM 08-31-2021
Now that's one tasty burger!
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Herewego 01:58 PM 08-31-2021
Robin's blue cheeseburger is to die for.
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Bearcat 04:54 PM 08-02-2023
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Red Robin is good. It's also ridiculously overpriced. But it's good.
I just had Red Robin for the first time ever a couple weekends ago. It was pretty solid, but yeah also overpriced.

OP updated, too.
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scho63 04:59 PM 08-02-2023
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
I just had Red Robin for the first time ever a couple weekends ago. It was pretty solid, but yeah also overpriced.

OP updated, too.
Pretty much everything has become overpriced. Crazy to spend $25-30 on fast food but easy to do.

Red Robin has some good stuff.
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Bowser 05:08 PM 08-02-2023
The Bottomless Steak Fries are money at RR (is that still a thing?).
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Bearcat 05:16 PM 08-02-2023
Originally Posted by Bowser:
The Bottomless Steak Fries are money at RR (is that still a thing?).
I don't think so... but given their burgers are like $15-17, it should be a thing.
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Rain Man 05:56 PM 08-02-2023
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
I just had Red Robin for the first time ever a couple weekends ago. It was pretty solid, but yeah also overpriced.

OP updated, too.
I used to be into Red Robin. As in "go there on my birthday" into it. But then for some reason I cooled on it. I'm not really into their fries so much, and they really only had one burger that I got every time, which was always kind of messy to eat. I haven't been to one in several years now, but wouldn't mind going back.
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Graystoke 07:18 PM 08-02-2023
RR has a good jingle but I’ve never dined there
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