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Two young children are dead and their mother suffered major injuries after two family dogs attacked a baby and toddler outside their West Tennessee home.Kirstie Bennard, 30, suffered critical injuries when she tried to intervene in the attack on her 5-month-old boy, Hollace Dean, and 2-year-old girl, Lilly Jane, family and police said.
"She put her body on top of Lilly’s to try and protect her after the attack started," Bennard's uncle by marriage, Jeff Gibson told USA TODAY on Saturday. "Both (dogs) started attacking her while she lay on Lilly."The two children were pronounced dead when officials arrived at the home, the sheriff's office reported.
It was not immediately known what provoked the mauling.The mauling, Gibson said, lasted about 10 minutes.The dogs – two pit bulls that belonged to the family – were euthanized at Memphis Animal Services Thursday.
The family owned the pets, Cheech and Mia, for more than eight years without a violent incident, Kelsey Canfield, the mother's best friend, told Fox News.
"I can promise you those children were her world, and if there was any inkling of danger, she would have never had those dogs near her kids," Canfield told the outlet. "Those children were everything to them, and they just have a really long journey ahead."
How do you feel about PittBull's? I posted this because my wife shared this story with me and my son was just recently participating in a "read to sheltered dogs" event where you could adopt a dog (I know brilliant).
I've heard the arguments that PittBull's get a bad wrap, but it seems time and time again they are the focal point of dogs who do these horrible acts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by frozenchief:
Shepherds are well-represented on the dog fatality list but they are also used extensively as police/protection/guard dogs. I have not seen any breakout of how many fatalities are from pets compared to working dogs.
And I’ve had a couple of mastiffs. They were great, loyal dogs and really mellow. Surprised to see that they are a breed of concern. Maybe mine were outliers but all they wanted to do was lie around the house, although they were really protective. Neighbor across the street had a pit that came into the street barking at my daughter and my mastiff came barreling down barking at that pit. I think those barks registered at the Tsunami warning center. But he was just the most loyal, faithful, mellow dog I have ever had and I’ve never heard of them being aggressive.
But it is odd how such a large percentage of fatalities can be attributed to one breed of dog that is such a small portion of the population. It’s like propensity for violence is a genetic trait or something.
Dogs like Mastiffs and yes, Rottys, aren't inherently aggressive.
But what they have is zero margin for error. They're less likely than some shitty little terrier to get a wild hair and try to truly aggressively bite someone. But if they do get that wild hair, the damage is immense.
Beagles, for instance, aren't on anyone's 'dangerous dogs' list, but they can be real shitheads. For my experience, they're more hair trigger and inherently 'aggressive' than a rot. But when they get shitty, they can't rip anyone's throat out.
That's why mastiffs end up on those lists. Very few of them lose their shit, but if they do, the damage is extraordinary. Those jaws are just so powerful that even a small, seemingly momentarily lapse in judgment, will do far more damage than a designed, prolonged, aggressive episode from most any other breed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Dogs like Mastiffs and yes, Rottys, aren't inherently aggressive.
But what they have is zero margin for error. They're less likely than some shitty little terrier to get a wild hair and try to truly aggressively bite someone. But if they do get that wild hair, the damage is immense.
Beagles, for instance, aren't on anyone's 'dangerous dogs' list, but they can be real shitheads. For my experience, they're more hair trigger and inherently 'aggressive' than a rot. But when they get shitty, they can't rip anyone's throat out.
That's why mastiffs end up on those lists. Very few of them lose their shit, but if they do, the damage is extraordinary.
That I could believe. My English one was not huge in the sense of being tall or long but he was extremely solid. A friend remarked, “You could put a turret on this dog.”
He hated moose and he went chasing a moose on our property one time. It was a mother moose with a calf so it wasn’t a big bull moose but still probably about 800 pounds. We could hear him barking and the moose huffing and chuffing. Then we hear this though ‘THWACK!’ It was like hitting a side of beef with a baseball bat. The dog yelps and comes limping back to the house. He limped for almost a week. But to be kicked by a moose and just limp. No broken bones or death? One solid dog. [Reply]
Originally Posted by frozenchief:
My English one was 130 pounds. My French one was about 110. French one was dumb as a box of rocks.
My sister had a 130 lb Presa Canario. Dumb as a goddamn hammer. Uglier than sin (clearly a botched fighting dog operation - someone mangled her ears trying to pin them or something; my sister rescued her).
And that dog was extremely sweet. We have pictures of my (then) 2 yr old climbing all over her. But then again, that kinda gets back to what I was saying - she was a low drive, lazy ass Presa. Ultimately a fairly poorly bred dog from dipshits who were running a breeding ring with no idea what they were doing. She simply wasn't what a Presa is supposed to be - that's not how they're wired. [Reply]
Not a fan of those dogs. Definitely wouldn't feel safe with my kids outside if a neighbor had them out. Went to a bonfire years ago at a friend's who had 2 Pits and they were pals for years and suddenly at the bon fire they began fighting each other to the death. No idea why...they were trained supposedly too. Took several people to separate them and get their arms and hands all tore up in the process. One of the dogs died shortly after separation and the other was put down later. No attack towards humans but man they seem unpredictable. Really sad for this family. I'd be done if this happened to my kids. I have no idea if they'll ever recover from this. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I agree with this as well, but didn't really wanna go down the rabbithole.
Our poop scooper guy comes over and he really likes the Rot. But Winston will make sure he's got the guy's attention when he shows up. And once they understand each other he's just wiggling through his legs and being his best buddy. Our cleaning lady loves him as well but he's GOING to make sure I'm aware she's there and that there's nothing to be concerned about. But I live alone, so if there's someone in the house and I'm not, they probably don't belong here.
I've talked with the poop guy before and he's mentioned that Rots are all pretty similar in that regard but that the pits still make him nervous because they won't stay in front of him. He sees them constantly searching angles and trying to get behind him.
I'm not a fan of pits, but I do recognize that for many it's 6 in one hand, a half dozen in the other. Aight - I'm not gonna try to tell you any different. It's something you're going to bring into your home; to each their own.
My pitt (Staffordshire/Cane Corso mix) is a 92 pound lapdog. When I got him, I wasn't working and I'd take him to the dog park and Happy Hour almost every day, so he's great around people and other dogs. He absolutely HATES the cat that appeared, though.
As an aside, about a week after Catrick Meowhomes appeared, he decided he wanted to meet Blu after his evening poop. I had Blu sit and Catrick started toward us. Got about a foot away and Blu is about to come apart but is still sitting. Catrick make a sudden move and Blue losses it and Catrick heads for a big oak tree, so Blu takes off and the leash is around my wrist and I'm horizontal being dragged 60 feet to the base of the tree. I wish I had video, because I could probably win some money with it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
My sister had a 130 lb Presa Canario. Dumb as a goddamn hammer. Uglier than sin (clearly a botched fighting dog operation - someone mangled her ears trying to pin them or something; my sister rescued her).
And that dog was extremely sweet. We have pictures of my (then) 2 yr old climbing all over her. But then again, that kinda gets back to what I was saying - she was a low drive, lazy ass Presa. Ultimately a fairly poorly bred dog from dipshits who were running a breeding ring with no idea what they were doing. She simply wasn't what a Presa is supposed to be - that's not how they're wired.
Depends. American Staffordshire Terriers, smaller pitt bull types, were known as nursery dogs as they were supposed to be incredibly good with children.
Most of the time it is not the dog, it is the person raising the dog. My mom was a kennel manager for quite a few years. Never was bitten by a big dog or a Pitt. All her dog bites came from small cute dumb shit dogs whose owners never disciplined them. [Reply]
