51-51. 6-6, 3 HRs, 2SB, 10RBI, 5XBH. What the utter eff does that? I'm 99% certain we are living among aliens. Because Ohtani is a walking talking alien. Just wow. Oh, and LAD has 9 games left to play. 60-60 anyone? Oh, and Ohtani's technically 'rehabbing' after his Tommy John surgery. Discuss. Shit yerself. Speak in tongues. Have at it. This is one of those moments.
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
Baseball lost all credibility when they shunned Bonds and Rocket from the Hall.
Nah. They lost credibility when they made David Ortiz a first ballot HoFer after taking a firm stance on steroid use and the hall, not to mention the handful of other known users currently in the HoF. I have no problem if they want to say Bonds and Clemens arent in because of steroids, but you can't then turn around and say a guy who was popped for steroids the year before a ban was put in place is a first ballot. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Nah. They lost credibility when they made David Ortiz a first ballot HoFer after taking a firm stance on steroid use and the hall, not to mention the handful of other known users currently in the HoF. I have no problem if they want to say Bonds and Clemens arent in because of steroids, but you can't then turn around and say a guy who was popped for steroids the year before a ban was put in place is a first ballot.
Tom Verducci is a steroid hardliner.
Rob Manfred declares Ortiz's 2003 failed test should not be considered a true positive for legal reasons.
Verducci uses Manfred's edict as a justisfication to vote for Ortiz.
There's more to it than this. Ortiz is the face of the 2000s-10s Red Sox, the face of the 2004 comeback, the man who declared this is our fucking city. The writers liked him and gave him a pass. "The politics of glory" as Bill James once appropriately remarked. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
What was the result of his gambling investigation? I thought this player would have been on the investigation list by now.
From what I read his translator /manager was stealing money from him and gambling with it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan:
From what I read his translator /manager was stealing money from him and gambling with it.
Yeah, I don't think Ohtani is in any kind of trouble or is the focus of any investigations. I believe I read that they found that his translator stole from him without his knowledge, so Shohei is in the clear. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Ocotillo:
Tom Verducci is a steroid hardliner.
Rob Manfred declares Ortiz's 2003 failed test should not be considered a true positive for legal reasons.
Verducci uses Manfred's edict as a justisfication to vote for Ortiz.
There's more to it than this. Ortiz is the face of the 2000s-10s Red Sox, the face of the 2004 comeback, the man who declared this is our fucking city. The writers liked him and gave him a pass. "The politics of glory" as Bill James once appropriately remarked.
Exactly. It's all a popularity contest. They have no credibility voting him in. Guess who else has only that 2003 test as evidence of steroid use. Sammy Sosa. Did he get Verducci's vote? [Reply]