I just feel like everyone is going to spend all week talking about Mahomes' ankle or Burrow being a Demigod or Chase against this young secondary or Lou Anarumo being a psychopath...and then in the end it's just going to Samaje Perine bludgeoning Bolton and Gay to death.
Originally Posted by Pablo:
Yeah he's not in his bag...just yet.
Thing is, we all know he's gonna get there.
But he'd NEVER let his team get in a 3-6 hole. Just isn't it him ya know?
I don't care if your name is Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady or Joe Montana. If you don't have 2 out of 3 in defense, running game or Oline, you ain't winning rings. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pablo:
Remember watching Jamaal go out there and give every ounce of himself game after game for some bullshit 6 win team??
All that effort and gaudy stats and it never amounted to shit. But we knew he was playing the best at his position and that did matter quite a bit to us.
Goddamn I threw that 3-6 thing out there before I saw they play the hapless Raiders. There's no way they lose that one at home is there?
I'll be there so if they don't, i'm gonna go ahead and burn the stadium down. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rfaulk34:
If you didn't have a top 5 defense the last 2 years, you'd be livin' it holmes.
I don't care if your name is Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady or Joe Montana. If you don't have 2 out of 3 in defense, running game or Oline, you ain't winning rings.
Yup, all true.
We're very fortunate the Chiefs are a good org all around. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rfaulk34:
I don't care if your name is Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady or Joe Montana. If you don't have 2 out of 3 in defense, running game or Oline, you ain't winning rings.
But one thing that separates Mahomes from all other current QBs is that when he absolutely has to make a play in a big playoff game he almost always comes through.
Cincy had a solid defense a couple of years ago and Burrow couldn’t maximize it to win a SB (with his whopping 0 fourth quarter playoff TDs).
Lamar had a super defense last year according to metrics and he throws a killer INT into triple coverage.
Allen was the closest to maximizing his defense, yet Mahomes torched the #1 defense in the league and crushed them with :13 seconds left. KC also did not have a top defense that year.
Good and great QBs make their living building up stats in the regular season and get awards for it. The legends make their mark on the biggest stage.
Even last year despite everything when it mattered the most, he was inevitable. Of the 31 other QBs in the league name one that you would take over Mahomes in a game winning drive in the playoffs/SB.
That’s why he’s a legend already regardless of his stats not being as great as they used to be. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tredadda:
But one thing that separates Mahomes from all other current QBs is that when he absolutely has to make a play in a big playoff game he almost always comes through.
Cincy had a solid defense a couple of years ago and Burrow couldn’t maximize it to win a SB (with his whopping 0 fourth quarter playoff TDs).
Lamar had a super defense last year according to metrics and he throws a killer INT into triple coverage.
Allen was the closest to maximizing his defense, yet Mahomes torched the #1 defense in the league and crushed them with :13 seconds left. KC also did not have a top defense that year.
Good and great QBs make their living building up stats in the regular season and get awards for it. The legends make their mark on the biggest stage.
Even last year despite everything when it mattered the most, he was inevitable. Of the 31 other QBs in the league name one that you would take over Mahomes in a game winning drive in the playoffs/SB.
That’s why he’s a legend already regardless of his stats not being as great as they used to be.
I don't disagree with anything you said. The only point i'm making is that, without the defense from last year and to a lesser extent, the year before, you're not even in a position to win the rings.
No doubt, when given the chance, Pat comes through in the end--which is why i've said before he's the scariest guy with the ball in his hands and a chance to win in the end. And all things being said, no one remembers or wants to talk about specifics after the fact. It's all about did you get the job done or didn't you.
Burrow had a bad oline and no running game in '21. With that, he was about 1 second from wearing a ring if someone...anyone, could have kept Donald off him in less than 2 seconds. He had a bad oline and no running game in '22 against the Chiefs and still had a chance to win at the end. This year the defense is a shit show, he still doesn't have a consistent decent running game, but at least the Oline is better (middle of the pack at best) in passpro.
Excuses are like assholes, they all stink but it's extremely frustrating for me to see how other teams win rings and make dynasties while i have to sit here and watch the Bengals fuck up a good thing time after time (3 x in the SB) by their very own doing by not knowing, being able to, or simply being too stubborn in wanting to do it their way.
You guys can keep shitting on Burrow and breaking out stats about 'no 4th qtr tds in the playoffs' but he's done things for this specific shit-show of a team that few other guys could do. Then you can go ahead and say 'sure because elite wrs'. Except that he's done it without them.
He's not Mahomes because no one who's ever played QB in the NFL has ever been Mahomes, but as a QB he's never been worse than top 3 and he's done it with one of the most poverty franchises of all professional sports, ever. Without Burrow, we're the Cincinnati Temu Football team. [Reply]
