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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Pants 10:58 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by |Zach|:
Missouri is moving on to a tougher conference and other people are telling us we shouldn't because"omgz it will be hard" but yea...we have the victim mentality.

Nothing says victim mentality by taking actions to remove yourself from a situation you are not a fan of.
Did you read my post when you wrote that?
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Mr. Plow 10:59 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC:
I wish KU would get an invite from the SEC...


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Frazod 11:00 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
And yet I'm not acting like a victim.
More like a jilted ex than anything else.
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Bearcat 11:01 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
practically you are talking about 4 more games, more practices, more travel, more missed class, instead of 1 game and the associated practice and travel. it IS a big difference.

And you know the bowl sponsors want their money still.
Eh, basketball does it from November through the first week of April, and well, you know what they say about that sport...

I've always liked the idea of an 8-team playoff (or a plus one or 4 teams... something), because it seems like there's usually a significant drop off around that point... that's only two extra games on top of the NC game for the two teams that make it that far.
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Reerun_KC 11:02 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:

You red boxed me?
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Pants 11:02 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
You're right:

I realize you don't live in KC so you have no idea what you're talking about, but trust me, Jack Harry is to MU what Keitzman is to KSU except taken up a couple notches.
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Mr. Plow 11:02 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by frazod:
More like a jilted ex than anything else.

I was starting to get worried that we'd have a day without the analogies.

I'm excited for "MU to SEC" thread. Saul Good is going to blow a gasket.
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Mr. Plow 11:03 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC:
You red boxed me?

lol. One time it showed up, on the next refresh, it disappeared. We'll just call it a double fail and move on.
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|Zach| 10-20-2011, 11:04 AM
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Pants 11:05 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
I was starting to get worried that we'd have a day without the analogies.

I'm excited for "MU to SEC" thread. Saul Good is going to blow a gasket.
Whatever I say about any of this, frazod will say I'm acting like a jilted ex. I understand why one might expect that from a rival fan. I don't blame him, because I would be thinking the exact same thing if the situations were reversed.
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Reerun_KC 11:06 AM 10-20-2011
This is like watching a JR girls fight...
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Reerun_KC 11:06 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
lol. One time it showed up, on the next refresh, it disappeared. We'll just call it a double fail and move on.
No worries. I was thinking does the 3 red box mean I am out?
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DJ's left nut 11:07 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
I realize you don't live in KC so you have no idea what you're talking about, but trust me, Jack Harry is to MU what Keitzman is to KSU except taken up a couple notches.
I lived in KC for almost 20 years; Harry was there through all of it. And yeah, I listen to him on the radio quite a bit.

Harry is just a contrarian talking head. He'll slam on Mizzou just as often as he slams on KU, you fellas just get a little touchy when he does it.

He blasts everybody because its good for his ratings. He'd be wailing on Mizzou right now if Keitzman was backing them. He's your standard contrarian.
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Reerun_KC 11:08 AM 10-20-2011
My KSU Daddy Keitzman can beat up your MU Daddy Harry...
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Mr. Plow 11:09 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Whatever I say about any of this, frazod will say I'm acting like a jilted ex. I understand why one might expect that from a rival fan.

It's like trying to explain algebra....wait, I'm not a math major.....spanish to my kids. They listen for a few seconds, then start staring out into space. When they finally look back at me, they want to talk about video games and I have to start all over. It's like beating your head against the wall.

I'm sure MU fans feel the same way about us though.



**Triple points for using 2 analogies in the same post**
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DJ's left nut 11:10 AM 10-20-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
I realize you don't live in KC so you have no idea what you're talking about, but trust me, Jack Harry is to MU what Keitzman is to KSU except taken up a couple notches.
And for the record, I don't generally feel like KK comes across as a K-State guy. I'm not one of those 'oh you're biased' whiners that's always killing some radio personality. KK is something of a shit disturber, but he's usually pretty evenhanded.

But here, KK's purple is showing and showing badly. That or he's just grinding an axe due to the way the B1G thing went down last year. But for a guy that I generally don't sense a lot of bias from, KK has been an absolute crybaby prick about this whole thing. He's mis-characterized and flat out fabricated shit for the last 6 weeks. Mizzou fans are absolutely justified in taking some shots at him at this point as he's been an absolute caricature.
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