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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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eazyb81 03:51 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Yeah, it a good thing you won't be playing ranked teams on the road in the SEC. Nobody ever wins those :-)
No, everyone wins their ranked road games in the SEC. That's why everyone finishes with an undefeated record there. Right?
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Pants 03:51 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
You called me a math major and yet you think the past 30 years includes the 60's & 70's? Wow.

The past 30 years would be: 1981-2011.
:-)

You're pwning hard, mang.
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Bambi 03:52 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
When I mentioned Gary Pinkel's career record, I meant to say that was his career record. Career would include this year, when we lost to three ranked teams on the road. Good burn attempt though. Did Bevo let you type that?
No one is ranked in the SEC.

check
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Bambi 10-19-2011, 03:53 PM
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BigCatDaddy 03:54 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
No, everyone wins their ranked road games in the SEC. That's why everyone finishes with an undefeated record there. Right?
WTF?
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Bambi 03:55 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
WTF?
Don't you see?

If everyone won on the road they would all be undefeated.

duh, math again
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|Zach| 03:55 PM 10-19-2011

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Saul Good 03:56 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Essentially we should all just focus on the past 5 years....check.
You can go back 15 years and show that Alabama isn't that great of a program if you want. You'll look dumb, but that's nothing new.
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eazyb81 03:57 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
You called me a math major and yet you think the past 30 years includes the 60's & 70's? :-)

The past 30 years would be: 1981-2011.
So we want to use 80's and 90's results to interpret how relevant or competitive a team is in the present? No one on the current staff was even with the program then. How exactly would that be a reliable indicator instead of just using our current staff's results?

You are trying way too hard.
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Saul Good 03:58 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Stewie:
/Big 10 snub
We snubbed the Big 10 by turning down their offer for junior membership this year.
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Pants 03:59 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
You can go back 15 years and show that Alabama isn't that great of a program if you want. You'll look dumb, but that's nothing new.
Ehhhh. I think they have a pretty good tradition of winning national titles.
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eazyb81 04:00 PM 10-19-2011
ku fan mocking anyone about getting snubbed is pure comedy gold.
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Pants 04:00 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
We snubbed the Big 10 by turning down their offer for junior membership this year.
Is this something one of the DeArmonds claimed? Didn't someone let it slip out that MU really wanted B1G but would have to settle for the SEC?
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kstater 04:02 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
We snubbed the Big 10 by turning down their offer for junior membership this year.
Link?
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Mr. Plow 04:03 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
You can go back 15 years and show that Alabama isn't that great of a program if you want. You'll look dumb, but that's nothing new.
Since 1991, Alabama has a record of 173-77....of those wins, 30 were vacated. MU in all their dominance is 2 games above .500 at 119-117.

I can see what you're saying.
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Bambi 04:03 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
You can go back 15 years and show that Alabama isn't that great of a program if you want. You'll look dumb, but that's nothing new.

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