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DaFace 09:40 AM 06-01-2014
Since a number of cool things are happening in space exploration these days, we'll widen the scope of this thread a smidge. Conversation about all things space exploration are welcome, whether it be from NASA, SpaceX, ULA, Blue Origin, or anyone else. Chances are most of the discussion will still be about SpaceX since they love to make things public and fun, but nothing's off limits. I'll eventually get around to modifying the OP to include resources for other companies too, but in the meantime, feel free to post any cool stuff you run across.

Lists of Upcoming Missions

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How to Watch a Live Launch
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Where to Learn More
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Glossary
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GeorgeZimZam 12:48 PM 11-06-2024

Starship’s fifth flight test was a seminal moment in iterating towards a fully and rapidly reusable launch system.

Next up: the sixth flight test of Starship is targeted to launch as early as Monday, November 18 → https://t.co/oIFc3u9laE pic.twitter.com/5496ApNHkA

— SpaceX (@SpaceX) November 6, 2024



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Donger 01:41 PM 11-15-2024
The sixth flight test of Starship is targeted to launch as early as Monday, November 18.

A live webcast of the flight test will begin about 30 minutes before liftoff, which you can watch here and on X @SpaceX. You can also watch the webcast on the new X TV app. The 30-minute launch window will open at 4:00 p.m. CT. As is the case with all developmental testing, the schedule is dynamic and likely to change, so be sure to check in here and stay tuned to our X account for updates.

Starship’s fifth flight test was a seminal moment in iterating towards a fully and rapidly reusable launch system. On the first attempt, the Super Heavy booster successfully returned to the launch site and was caught by the chopstick arms of the launch and catch tower at Starbase. Starship’s upper stage went on to demonstrate several improvements, resulting in a controlled entry and high accuracy splashdown at the targeted area in the Indian Ocean.

The next Starship flight test aims to expand the envelope on ship and booster capabilities and get closer to bringing reuse of the entire system online. Objectives include the booster once again returning to the launch site for catch, reigniting a ship Raptor engine while in space, and testing a suite of heatshield experiments and maneuvering changes for ship reentry and descent over the Indian Ocean.

The success of the first catch attempt demonstrated the design feasibility while providing valuable data to continue improving hardware and software performance. Hardware upgrades for this flight add additional redundancy to booster propulsion systems, increase structural strength at key areas, and shorten the timeline to offload propellants from the booster following a successful catch. Mission designers also updated software controls and commit criteria for the booster’s launch and return.

Analogous to the fifth flight test, distinct vehicle and pad criteria must be met prior to a return and catch of the Super Heavy booster, which will require healthy systems on the booster and tower and a final manual command from the mission’s Flight Director. If this command is not sent prior to the completion of the boostback burn, or if automated health checks show unacceptable conditions with Super Heavy or the tower, the booster will default to a trajectory that takes it to a landing burn and soft splashdown in the Gulf of Mexico. We accept no compromises when it comes to ensuring the safety of the public and our team, and the return will only take place if conditions are right.

The returning booster will slow down from supersonic speeds, resulting in audible sonic booms in the area around the landing zone. Generally, the only impact to those in the surrounding area of a sonic boom is the brief thunder-like noise with variables like weather and distance from the return site determining the magnitude experienced by observers.

Starship’s upper stage will fly the same suborbital trajectory as the previous flight test, with splashdown targeted in the Indian Ocean. An additional objective for this flight will be attempting an in-space burn using a single Raptor engine, further demonstrating the capabilities required to conduct a ship deorbit burn prior to orbital missions.

Several thermal protection experiments and operational changes will test the limits of Starship’s capabilities and generate flight data to inform plans for ship catch and reuse. The flight test will assess new secondary thermal protection materials and will have entire sections of heat shield tiles removed on either side of the ship in locations being studied for catch-enabling hardware on future vehicles. The ship also will intentionally fly at a higher angle of attack in the final phase of descent, purposefully stressing the limits of flap control to gain data on future landing profiles. Finally, adjusting the flight’s launch window to the late afternoon at Starbase will enable the ship to reenter over the Indian Ocean in daylight, providing better conditions for visual observations.

Future ships, starting with the vehicle planned for the seventh flight test, will fly with significant upgrades including redesigned forward flaps, larger propellant tanks, and the latest generation tiles and secondary thermal protection layers as we continue to iterate towards a fully reusable heat shield. Learnings from this and subsequent flight tests will continue to make the entire Starship system more reliable as we close in on full and rapid reusability.
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GeorgeZimZam 08:59 PM 11-15-2024
Stopped by the Orbital Launch Mount a few minutes ago to see the full stack of Flight 6 Starship, after dinner and Old Fashioneds at Starbase.




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GeorgeZimZam 09:50 PM 11-15-2024

Targeting Tuesday, November 19 for Starship’s sixth flight test. A 30-minute launch window opens at 4:00 p.m. CT → https://t.co/oIFc3u9laE pic.twitter.com/s3Rk8TWfen

— SpaceX (@SpaceX) November 16, 2024

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GeorgeZimZam 02:48 PM 11-16-2024
Volunteered at the Laguna Madre Humane Society this morning. Located right next to the Lighthouse in Port Isabel. Beautiful, clear day—perfect for some distance views of the Flight 6 full stack across the bay (and the Rocket Garden/Production Site), from atop the lighthouse.




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GeorgeZimZam 02:49 PM 11-16-2024

Watch Starship's sixth flight test → https://t.co/oIFc3u9laE https://t.co/acpdO2brbP

— SpaceX (@SpaceX) November 16, 2024


Watch Starship's sixth flight test → https://t.co/oIFc3u9laE https://t.co/acpdO2brbP

— SpaceX (@SpaceX) November 16, 2024

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GeorgeZimZam 08:23 PM 11-16-2024

Here is the full talk from @Gwynne_Shotwell at the Baron Capitol conference from yesterday!

03:50 - Mechazilla
08:54 - Regulatory struggles
11:51 - Starshield
18:00 - Why we need to make life multiplanetary
22:23 - SpaceX management
26:39 - Starlink
38:43 - Starlink on Mars… pic.twitter.com/EzaacTMc4S

— Robin (@xdNiBoR) November 16, 2024


Here is the full talk from @Gwynne_Shotwell at the Baron Capitol conference from yesterday!

03:50 - Mechazilla
08:54 - Regulatory struggles
11:51 - Starshield
18:00 - Why we need to make life multiplanetary
22:23 - SpaceX management
26:39 - Starlink
38:43 - Starlink on Mars… pic.twitter.com/EzaacTMc4S

— Robin (@xdNiBoR) November 16, 2024

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GloryDayz 10:25 PM 11-16-2024
Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam:
Volunteered at the Laguna Madre Humane Society this morning. Located right next to the Lighthouse in Port Isabel. Beautiful, clear day—perfect for some distance views of the Flight 6 full stack across the bay (and the Rocket Garden/Production Site), from atop the lighthouse.



Freaking OUTSTANDING! :-):-):-):-)
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GeorgeZimZam 09:14 AM 11-19-2024
Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam:
My younger sister is visiting my wife and I here in Deep South Texas. Before taking the SpaceX hovercraft from Starbase over to South Padre Island yesterday evening, we got to venture up to the top level of Megabay 2. Awesome 360º views of South Bay, Port Isabel, South Padre Island, Boca Chica Village, fully stacked Flight 5 Starship at the Orbital Launch Integration Tower, Gulf of Mexico, and the Rio Grande. Top level nearing completion for special event space and bar. Sadly, no photos permitted.

This is the top of Megabay at Starbase https://t.co/oLnH9oIqMS

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 19, 2024


Breathtaking view at SpaceX Starbase pic.twitter.com/ZRJeu6xH8Q

— Dima Zeniuk (@DimaZeniuk) November 19, 2024

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DaFace 09:19 AM 11-19-2024
Nice of them to do this one in the middle of the day this time. I was getting tired of getting up at 5am. :-)
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GeorgeZimZam 09:32 AM 11-19-2024
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Nice of them to do this one in the middle of the day this time. I was getting tired of getting up at 5am. :-)
After watching 1 through 5 from South Padre Island, Port Isabel, South Bay, and Starbase, Flight 6 will be my first I won’t be getting out for. But hope to catch it while taking my afternoon lunch hour at home. Will see how visible and audible it is from about 15ish miles away in town. Also, no more post-launch ragers at Starbase. Although there feels like a lot of excitement for this one (and the VIP attendee), feels like transition to routine Starship launches as the status quo is underway.

All systems and weather are looking good for today's flight test of Starship.

The live launch webcast on @X will go live ~40 minutes before liftoff, which is targeted for 4:00 p.m. CT → https://t.co/1xyLhQKE2N pic.twitter.com/lqy2CsL4vz

— SpaceX (@SpaceX) November 19, 2024


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GeorgeZimZam 04:22 PM 11-19-2024
Bummer—no booster catch this time!
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Donger 05:33 PM 11-19-2024
Wonder why the called off the catch?
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DaFace 05:59 PM 11-19-2024
Originally Posted by Donger:
Wonder why the called off the catch?
Yeah, I'll be curious if they say anything about it. They said that the tower was good earlier, so presumably some sort of sensor on the booster said no.
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MagicHef 06:09 PM 11-19-2024
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Yeah, I'll be curious if they say anything about it. They said that the tower was good earlier, so presumably some sort of sensor on the booster said no.
I’m assuming we will find out fairly soon, SpaceX is very open with their information. By contrast, Blue Origin’s New Shepard failure causes still are not public.
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