Some fun here. Edwards-Helaire rushed for 1,415 yards and 16 touchdowns as a junior .. all-purpose yards -- receiving (55 receptions, 453 yards) and kick returner (KEY) 10 returns, 214 yards pic.twitter.com/3Duq1jjy6J
Holy offense Bat Man. I love Clyde Edwards-Helaire. He is best Rb in the draft. Watkins and Hill deep. Kelce in the middle. And Edwards-Helaire underneath. Good Luck defenses.
Brett Veach told Andy Reid to watch some Clyde Edwards-Helaire film and told Reid you’ll see Brian Westbrook. Reid watched. Then got back to Veach and said he’s better than Westbrook.
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I'm curious why you don't like him....
I think they want elite or near elite athleticism from their receivers moving forward and that’s not Shenault’s game. I don’t see him being a great separator from coverage at the NFL level. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
And who says we can’t give a second contract to him? It’s not like RBs can’t get second year deals....you just have to be careful who you give them to.
Yea is anybody saying the Ekeler deal is bad?
If you’re going to pay a RB, a guy that catches passes like a slot WR is different than a workhorse 25+ carries guy like Henry. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I think they want elite or near elite athleticism from their receivers moving forward and that’s not Shenault’s game. I don’t see him being a great separator from coverage at the NFL level.
He actually is a great athlete for his size, if he lost 10lbs he'd be ridiculously fast.
What I like about him is he brings a playmaker in a different body type. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
You want those guys there for at least 7-8 years ideally.
No offense but that rarely happens with any draft pick, especially a running back.
Furthermore, the Chiefs second Super Bowl Window is open right now. They're bringing back 20 of 22 starters and the only thing the offense is missing is a true Feature Back, which they have in CEH.
Now, their window is wide open for the next 4 seasons, which I'll take every single day of the week. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Holy shit, this is just an absolutely ****ing awful take.
Good ****ing God.
Maybe, but it's probable, based on Andy's precedents. CEH is a rookie. Damien is a known quantity and Washington is also a known quantity and a vet. Unless CEH has a photographic memory and just blows up from day 1, he's going to slot behind the vets. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Yeah, he's got that elusiveness and change of direction to make something out of nothing. It's a rare talent, and that's what you have to have if you've got a middle of the pack at best OL.
We're also not going to suddenly hand off 30 times a game. I mean, that's just not what Andy Reid does. I don't care if we had Barry Sanders and Walter Payton.
And Clyde's got a little of both of those guys going on.
Woah hold on a sec. Let’s give some damn respect to Damien Williams. That guy is about as elusive as it gets. He also has 11 playoff TD’s in 2 years.
That’s not me arguing against CEH by saying that. Let’s just keep in mind how goddamn good Damien was for us. Give him his due. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
He actually is a great athlete for his size, if he lost 10lbs he'd be ridiculously fast.
What I like about him is he brings a playmaker in a different body type.
There’s some injury issues there too.
More than anything, I just think we could get a lot more immediate impact from several other positions. Shenault, especially in this weird offseason, probably wouldn’t start a game for this offense in 2020. I know Watkins and Robinson could leave next year, but we can worry about that then. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
If he was a 4th round pick, it's an accurate take, at 32 no, he's going to play a lot right away.
Pretty obvious they viewed RB as a problem as much as a ton of fans did.
Considering that Damien Williams is good for about 6 regular season games, as he's always injured during Training Camp, I don't think CEH would be behind anyone currently on this roster.
It's pretty clear the Chiefs targeted CEH as the Week 1 starter and are going to load him up this season.
Williams will be an afterthought, although he could be valuable as a spot back, if he's healthy, which certainly isn't a guarantee. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
There’s some injury issues there too.
More than anything, I just think we could get a lot more immediate impact from several other positions. Shenault, especially in this weird offseason, probably wouldn’t start a game for this offense in 2020. I know Watkins and Robinson could leave next year, but we can worry about that then.
Thats the thing, you don't need him to start, you make him a 10-20 play package guy where he can give you snaps all over the field even wildcat QB...that ads an element to the offense that is sick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Yes but none of you people have bothered to read the new CBA.
If any first rounder reaches two Pro Bowls in his first three seasons, his 5th year option then equals the Franchise Tag number.
So if CEH lives up to his potential, he'll likely be with the Chiefs for only 4 years but the Chiefs should get a high Comp Pick in return.
RB's are comically underpaid so I don't think putting the tag on a back is a big deal. That's why I was like fuck it, do the 5th year option and even franchise tag him once.
That's 6 years of pretty good value with zero long term big money committment. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Damien Williams is a really nice role player, change of pace, 3rd down back etc, he's nowhere near a feature guy.
Exactly. If the Chiefs hit on a UDFA, he could even bring back a player in a trade before the season starts.
For whatever dumb reason, there's a large population of Damien Williams fans that think he's the guy that excelled in the 2019 playoffs and Super Bowl.
He's not. Not even close.
That's the player he could be, if healthy, but he's never been healthy, even going back to college, which is why he was a UDFA. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
No offense but that rarely happens with any draft pick, especially a running back.
Furthermore, the Chiefs second Super Bowl Window is open right now. They're bringing back 20 of 22 starters and the only thing the offense is missing is a true Feature Back, which they have in CEH.
Now, their window is wide open for the next 4 seasons, which I'll take every single day of the week.
Shit man with the efficiency this team has operated with? I think it could be much longer than that. As long as Andy Reid doesn’t have a stroke we’re good for maybe the next decade.
Spags isn’t getting another HC job and we all know Toub isn’t either.
We’re going to have Mahomes, Veach, Andy, Spags and Toub running this football team.
Jesus. The Chiefs really could run the 2020’s. [Reply]