Alright Planeteers, I've been arguing on message boards with people about this off and on for a couple years now and I want to get CP's input on it. The question is this: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Mike Tyson in his prime? Let's hear it! [Reply]
Rabblerouser and White Whale are each partially correct. Lee was in fact an accomplished martial artist, and Eastern disciplines are more complete than boxing as a martial art, due to the latter being constrained by its rules. In the hypothetical match-up, Tyson would have trouble countering moves by Lee that would be illegal in WBC-style boxing, because he would not trained against them. The same thing happened to, for example, Brock Lesnar when he transitioned to the MMA; he at first fell victim to submission holds against which he had no experience.
However, the fact that would swing the battle to Tyson's favor is that he was an athlete built to fight, while Lee was a showman whose main consideration was on appearance. Tyson was (in the late-80s, anyway) a physical specimen; he had three inches and 120 pounds on Lee, and he was known even among other world-class heavyweight boxers for being an impossibly hard hitter. Lee's only hope would be to use his feet and speed and Tyson was also a master at closing distance. Assuming that the battle was in a constrained area like a boxing ring, the match would probably be over in seconds. [Reply]
Don't remember when I voted in this poll, but I voted Tyson while knowing full well that people greatly overrate a boxer's ability in a street fight. In this case though, Lee wasn't really a fighter, and Tyson in his prime had enough weight and size on Lee to overpower him.
Put Tyson in his prime against a great MMA guy though, even someone a few weight classes down, and I don't think Tyson has much of a chance, maybe 5-10% that he's able to land a KO before they clinch. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Aries Walker:
Rabblerouser and White Whale are each partially correct. Lee was in fact an accomplished martial artist, and Eastern disciplines are more complete than boxing as a martial art, due to the latter being constrained by its rules. In the hypothetical match-up, Tyson would have trouble countering moves by Lee that would be illegal in WBC-style boxing, because he would not trained against them. The same thing happened to, for example, Brock Lesnar when he transitioned to the MMA; he at first fell victim to submission holds against which he had no experience.
However, the fact that would swing the battle to Tyson's favor is that he was an athlete built to fight, while Lee was a showman whose main consideration was on appearance. Tyson was (in the late-80s, anyway) a physical specimen; he had three inches and 120 pounds on Lee, and he was known even among other world-class heavyweight boxers for being an impossibly hard hitter. Lee's only hope would be to use his feet and speed and Tyson was also a master at closing distance. Assuming that the battle was in a constrained area like a boxing ring, the match would probably be over in seconds.
lol I love discussions like this
You learn interesting things from the different sides
I love Bruce Lee and think he could beat the crap out of 95% of the population
Mike Tyson would be one of the exceptions I think
I could see a scenario where Lee could win, but it would involve catching Tyson with kicks
If you land a good shot to their thigh you can numb their leg and make it useless
If Lee was able to do that and slow Tyson down maybe he could get in some more kicks to the ribs and break a few
But Tyson I think just has too much of a size and strength advantage that it would be a longshot IMO for Lee to poke him without getting caught
If Lee was 6' 200lb then Lee in a landslide
But at like 140lb it would be too hard to handle Tyson's power [Reply]
Originally Posted by rico:
By running away from Tyson and into the country???
By going low and taking Tyson's feet from under him.
Tyson would be badly hurt and on his back within seconds.
Lee wouldn't have to be the 'athlete' that Tyson is - Jeet Kune Do is an intercepting style that turns the attacker into the attackee. It is designed to dispense with the opponent quickly and with an efficient minimum of physical exertion.
Tyson was a lumbering oaf compared to Lee, in their primes. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
By going low and taking Tyson's feet from under him.
Tyson would be badly hurt and on his back within seconds.
Lee wouldn't have to be the 'athlete' that Tyson is - Jeet Kune Do is an intercepting style that turns the attacker into the attackee. It is designed to dispense with the opponent quickly and with an efficient minimum of physical exertion.
Tyson was a lumbering oaf compared to Lee, in their primes.
What precisely do you mean by "going low"? Kicks? [Reply]
Originally Posted by alnorth:
What precisely do you mean by "going low"? Kicks?
Probably - it would depend on how Tyson came at Lee.
The thing about Jeet Kune Do is, there's no real "rules" or one "correct" way to go about turning an opponents energy back on to them.
If Tyson came up high (as he most certainly would), the most efficient way would probably be a kick to the knee, which would probably rip Tyson's kneecap off and tear ligaments and tendons while breaking bone...
