Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
That's what I'm hoping, Teicher doesn't specify because he's a damn clown as we all know. I can't imagine that after watching what they just did that they would sit on their hands if Stanley or Jackson ends up on the market.
I just don't see them doing nothing. If there's anything we've seen from Veach, it's that he's aggressive when problems like this arise. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Not really. Thuney is not a LT and it showed. Caliendo is not a starter in the NFl and it showed. You can say what you will about Jawaan but the majority of the issues came from the left side including Thuney getting walked into Patrick on that 2nd INT
Taylor has consistently been one of our better lineman, aside from the penalties. The hate he gets seems misplaced to me. I understand people are upset that he gets paid so much, but this is basically the player he's always been. Nobody forced Veach to give him $80 million.
Everyone is saying they can't wait to cut him after next year, but I wouldn't get so excited based on our recent history of finding decent tackles. [Reply]
Outside of a trade I honestly don't see a fix this off-season that's a long-term one. I think it's DJ back and if Conerly or Simmons is doable, you try for that. Assuming not, you just rebuild the DL, provide more weapons (RB especially) and do what you can to fill the FA gaps.
If that includes another R2/R3 swing at someone like Belton, as staylor says, as another developmental option that might look less disastrous than Kingsley and Morris, cool [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Just bring Juju back. No one else will want him and he actually produced in the playoffs time and time again.
I would bet good money he's not going anywhere. I'd expect him to stay over Hollywood just because of the financial end of it. Brown could find a decent offer from some desperate shit team. JuJu isn't getting anything but low wage one year deals at this point, and that might as well be from us. [Reply]
I'm just still confused as to who on the Chiefs coaching staff thought Kingsley was good enough to start out of camp? Clearly that guy isn't ready for NFL play anytime soon or in the near future and its back to the drawing board again this offseason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
I'm just still confused as to who on the Chiefs coaching staff thought Kingsley was good enough to start out of camp? Clearly that guy isn't ready for NFL play anytime soon or in the near future and its back to the drawing board again this offseason.
He was fine against Baltimore. Hendrickson destroyed him physically AND mentally. And they just gave up on him after that.
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
Taylor has consistently been one of our better lineman, aside from the penalties. The hate he gets seems misplaced to me. I understand people are upset that he gets paid so much, but this is basically the player he's always been. Nobody forced Veach to give him $80 million.
Everyone is saying they can't wait to cut him after next year, but I wouldn't get so excited based on our recent history of finding decent tackles.
If you have looked at the market right now for OLineman and what they get paid, Taylor is pretty inline with what he provides vs cost. By cutting him you now have to replace him on that side for equal/lesser cost which might not be as easy as we think. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
He was fine against Baltimore. Hendrickson destroyed him physically AND mentally. And they just gave up on him after that.
The coaching staff did him zero favors.
Most of the charts I saw showed that we have Morris and Thuney more help than Kingsley.
We also adjusted to a short passing game with Thuney.
Probably should’ve done that with Kingsley from the beginning while he developed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
Most of the charts I saw showed that we have Morris and Thuney more help than Kingsley.
We also adjusted to a short passing game with Thuney.
Probably should’ve done that with Kingsley from the beginning while he developed.
It was a complete botch job. Reid has infinite good will in this city but he and the organization deserve a ton of scorn for how LT was handled. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Crazy that the Chiefs have $71 million committed to their offensive line for 2025… 4th most in the league… and this is the result.
No it's not.
You have Thuney with a 26M cap hit, and its easy to extend lower his cap hit.
Taylor also has a 27M cap hit, and while we can all bitch and moan about it, you just deal with it this season.
I mean that right there is 53 of the 71. And Creed is another 10.
This is why you always have to be drafting offensive linemen in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th rounds. Not only are there 5 spots on the line, they all will cost you real deal money on second contracts.
While the Super Bowl has shined a light on our deficiencies, its not like we are without developmental talent along the line, thanks in part to spending a 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 7th round picks on guys. Did we find the starting LT we are looking for? Probably not, but I think Morris and Suamataia have a real shot at eventually starting at RT and G respectively.
I'll be honest, I don't really know what I'd do in the draft as far as LT goes, the Chiefs are in as difficult of a position that you can be in. I fall into the camp where taking a LT at 31 doesn't really change our lot in life. Trading up is going to cost you what the roster badly needs, youth, speed and rookie contracts at key positions. Cam Robinson doesn't interest me, but finding a stop gap LT via trade or FA would be preferable.
As I look at the draft:
Round One: LT or DT - I would love to be able to grab a dynamic DT in round 1.
Round Two: DT/RB/CB - If you don't grab a DT in the first you better get one in the second because they are all going to be off the board. If you want a stud 3 down dynamic RB, you can't wait. Yes there are talented backs to be had later, but if you want one of the top guys you have to go here. I put CB on my list because if there is a kid you love sitting there take him at the end of the 2nd or top of the 3rd.
Round Three(2 Picks): CB/EDGE/RB/WR/OL - There is a lot of different ways to go with these two picks. I want play makers in these spots, but if you don't take a LT in the first, you probably need to keep adding to the line.
Round Four: OL/DB/RB: I think this is the round where you can make a pick that could really change the OL. So while we have Suamataia and Morris, if there is a nice guard sitting there in the 4th that you think can be a starter go get him. Thuney showed he has plenty of gas in the tank, but adding another guy to the mix might be the wise move to make and if you hit on a guy like we did Smith, you just helped your cap situation out. I'd roll the dice on the right guy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by New World Order:
He had 4 catches the entire postseason
Juju had 4/6 for 76 yards
Brown had 5/13 for 50 yards
I don't want either of them back to be frank but given the choice and cap implications Juju is by far the easiest choice. For how supposedly good he was at getting separation Brown couldn't do fucking shit against defenses that pressed him at the LOS. [Reply]